Could the TM organization humble itself and even welcome Art Of Living to the 
front lines of the Mideast there to a larger peacemaking in collective 

---In, <> wrote :

 In an alliance TM could reconcile with SSRS and and invite Art of Living to 
follow the links to come the Antalya collective meditation further below.. It 
is clearly time to come together in meditation.

---In, <> wrote :

 In Mediation. Yes, all of the AOLiving's able meditators should go to the 
front lines of meditation there in the Mideast and join the group meditation 
mediation there, if not only by the proof of secular and modern science but for 
what we know of ourselves as the spiritual power of what is good in deep 
meditation. It is time. 

---In, <> wrote :

 AOLiving should stand tall on this, Damn the ISIS torpedoes, mobilize and get 
moving!   AOLiving's speed on this should be full speed ahead for a group 
meditation there. A beach-head is already made there on the front lines to be 
re-enforced by a group such as Art of Living too. 

---In, <> wrote :

 Evidently, Turkey is currently experiencing a *phase transition* with so many 
bombings going on.:)

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   The AOLiving people should now turn around and re-enforce the group 
 in Turkey.   

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 Art of Living is a huge vibrant movement.  They should use the power of their 
meditating numbers to move up to the front and help out with the collective 
meditation going on there.  They are organized enough they should go rent out 
other hotels there alongside the TM group,   Even join them.  



---In, <> wrote :

 I just saw on Yahoo News that Sri Sri Ravi Shankar tried to get *peace talks* 
initiated with ISIS. 

 Their response was to send him a photograph of a decapitated body.
 Seems Sri Sri became resigned to the fact that maybe only the military should 
deal ISIS.

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 There are scholarly teachers, gurus who teach technique, and saints who give 
help and can directly transform people. With any one or in combination then 
what is the experience of charisma and where is the TMO now with charisma? 
  What is charisma?
 One author talks about 'prophetic charisma', on a different continuum than 
what we may see as narcissism, or narcissistic personality or disorders.
 Pure charisma thus is personal and is based on face-to-face contact and 
feelings of trust, duty, and love on the part of the followers (Schweitzer 
1984, 33). It is creative and revolutionary, for "in its pure form charisma . . 
. may be said to exist only in the process of originating" (Weber 1964, 364). 
At the other end of the continuum, routinized charisma describes what happens 
when a leader’s charisma is thinly dispersed throughout the followers who act 
in the leader’s name, typically after he has died. It may survive many 
generations and underlie a stable social order, but it is conservative and is 
not a force for social change (Miyahara 1983, 370).


---In, <> wrote :

 Nine years on, I'd exhale if I were them.:-) 
---In, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Ollie, yours seems a fair critique of the situation here by comparison.  The 
True-believers of the TM meditating community are hopeful that Dr. Nader is 
that person though he is not too available to be experienced or quoted unless 
you have the money to be on courses with him.  Those who have been with him 
seem to ‘like’ him.   It remains to be more widely seen what the ‘nature’ of 
his charisma is in leadership going forward.  

---In, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 True, the spectrum of consciousness available through TM and TMSP is complete, 
spanning the transcendental states of consciousness, and bringing one to 
Brahman. None of these other programs cover such a range, though they can be 
helpful in offering a new, partial perspective on the journey. 

 The kicker with the TMO is there is no one living in Brahman heading the 
organization, so that these other programs are seen in opposition, and as 
threats, instead of seeing them as a partial picture, with the complete 
definition of the growth of consciousness always available through the 
techniques, and associated documents, and media of the TM program and TMSP.  

 Without someone new at the top to put this into perspective, Maharishi's 
teachings are the only fallback, with the consequence of the TMO becoming less 
relevant and increasingly conservative.  
---In, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Fairfield has a lot of active long going satsanga groups.  The Oneness group 
has been on the ascendent in Fairfield for sometime in more recent years.  AOL 
is active still. Waking Down, the wavicle group, The meditator churches are 
vibrant too.  In a strict interpretation, these meetings should not be attended 
by TM teachers.  

---In, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Yes, it evidently was a spiritually attuned meeting of a lot of old TM 
teachers in Fairfield, Iowa.  The guy came to Fairfield through the Oneness 
group.  Apparently the mantras were very well sung with good effect.  Was yet 
another spiritually powerful meeting of Fairfield.  Lot of our old TM community 
here was there in the audience listening/meditating with it.  

---In, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 Good - whatever it takes. ;-)


---In, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 ...sounds like the "Krishna Das" aberration. A billion Indians, and everyone 
wants to listen to a guy from Long Island instead. Like when they used to make 
the cowboy westerns and all the Native American parts were played by white 
actors from LA and NYC. 
---In, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 The original post seems a good reminder about the vibratory nature of mantras. 

 There was a guy touring here to Fairfield tonight singing these mantras in a 
program downtown attended by quite a full crowd of TM teachers meditating along 
with the singing of these mantras.  The TM teachers, many of them being re-cert 
TM teachers or old TM teachers who are being paid to be on the IA grant in the 
Dome did not themselves seem ‘confused’ by such spiritual practice as the 
current Dome badge guidelines for being in the Dome meditation would assert.  
[I did not go to said concert but a reliable report thus tells me so.]   


---In, <yifuxero@...> wrote :

 The significance of Gayatri Mantra
 The significance of Gayatri Mantra Bangalore, India   Adi 
Shankaracharyaji, after having given all the knowledge he had to give he says 
one last thing, ‘O Shiva! You are me

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