You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.' Do you think the courts would find a mother 
guilty of murder if she took her new born child, who could not live on it's 
own, out into the desert and left it to die or drowned it, knowing full well 
what she was doing?


      From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


   From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.
  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be murdered? 
Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this repressive 
thinking. More medieval thinking.
It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up. Of course dead 
beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the overwhelming 
majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.Chances are, 
they never had any significant part in raising the kid, monetarily or guidance 
wise.
As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the 
big *A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  
of children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not raising 
the minimum wage to $15.
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict resolution. They grow up with 
a minimum of supervision, lacking authority figures close to them to teach them 
social skills. As they grow up, they produce the same, if not worse. It's a 
vicious downward cycle that's becoming more and more the norm. I guess TM 
taught in schools might offer some help to these kids but the trick is, that 
they need to want to do it. Most of these kids seem to lack any kind of self 
discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes twice a day might be more than they 
can handle and for the most part, too fucking boring. Hell, they could be 
beating up some kid, taking their lunch money and buying a dime bag!

Good Lord, I think I've woken up to a FFL that has really lost its mind this 
time... Yes, let's blame Hillary for this and blame single-parent families for 
ignorant children or those who act out, become hellions. Of course, you seem to 
assume  that most single-parent families are headed by women (those good-for 
nothing deadbeat dads just love to run off and knock up someone else while high 
on some drug or other) - so let's add their lack of parenting ability to the 
list.

  From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 ... under Hillary presidency?
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