I continue to make an equivalence between the two groups, because I haven't 
seen anything in the Christian fundies that leads me to believe they would act 
any less violent, if under attack. In fact, absent any intentions against them, 
they continue to perpetrate acts of violence. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I think it is you who have your fruit mixed up. That cruise missile you 
mention was fired by the US government, a secular organization. My comments 
were in response to your post that made an equivalence between Islamic and 
Christian fundamentalism. 

And it wasn't so long ago (1998 or 1999) that the US military was bombing the 
hell out of a Christian country (Serbia) in defense of Muslims (in Kosovo). 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might. 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <hepa7@...> wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.

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 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.




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