--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Judy, 
> > > Just a few off the cuff comments to your thoughtful reply.
> > > 
> > > Regardless of your (our) judgement of Maharishi's state of
> > > consciousness, how the teaching is manifested still has to be
> > > evaluated critically. Does it acomplish it's purpose? This is 
part
> > > process of life.
> > 
> > I'm not sure we can say what its purpose is in a way
> > that would enable us to do a critical evaluation.
> > 
> > How would you define it?
> > 
> > > You'll find the same internal consistency in many of the more 
> > > proment Adviatic, Dzochen, Course in Miracles, etc. teachers. 
And 
> > > many have the same type of character flaws we talk about here.
> > 
> > Sure.  But internal consistency is just one of the
> > criteria I was using.
> > 
> > > Most of us agree that TM has inspired benificial unfoldment of
> > > consciousness.  When we see or come into contact with Maharishi 
we 
> > > get a clearer reflection/experience of OUR own Self (Blazing 
> > > Brahman is non-dual, afterall)
> > > 
> > > We (both us and Maharishi) still have to work it out in the 
> > > relative, no matter what the perspective on where or who or 
from 
> > > what state of consciousness the  teaching comes from. 
> > 
> > Yes, well said.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Without meditators there is no movement, no TMO. 
> > > 
> > > JohnY
> > >
> >
> Sure, the purpose of the teaching is to unfold enlightenment for the
> individual. Simple, if there is no or limited access to the teaching
> how can that happen. Maharishi has planted that seed very widely. 
Why
> should it stop now? Is the TMO fulfilling it's purpose now? Very
> difficult to say. Will it do so in the future? There certainly isn't
> any clear indication of that. The TMO is and has been violently
> contracting on itself. Burning many carefully build bridges along 
the
> way. Slowly and simply teaching all these years would have worked
> better, in my opinion, with much less bullshit.

It's a reasonable perspective, but it isn't exactly
the basis for an objective measurement of whether
MMY's teaching is fulfilling its purpose.  There are
lots of ways to interpret what MMY is doing with the
TMO now, some of which suggest that it will
ultimately facilitate that purpose more than going
slowly and simply.

I've proposed one such: MMY wants to contract the
movement and burn its bridges so that it can be
handed over to King Tony in a nice, neat, self-
contained package of unquestioned loyalty once MMY
dies, which will allow Tony to take firm control
and implement his own plans and ideas without a lot
of controversy (or at least without as much as 
there would have been otherwise).

In other words, the contraction now will make
expansion easier once King Tony takes over.

I have *no* idea if that's correct; obviously we'll
have to wait and see.  We have no idea yet what Tony
will be like as the head of the movement, whether
he'll take it and run with it or get all bogged
down in trying (and inevitably failing) to be a
second Maharishi.

But I don't see anything that would rule out that
interpretation, at any rate.

There's more than one way to skin a cat; plus which,
"Unfathomable is the course of action."  Who can say
what Nature has in mind?






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