This guy sure doesn't look persecuted...
---In, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 Yeah, right, all those poor, persecuted Christians having to hide their faith. 

 Give me a break.

 And unless they're using a loudspeaker, how can you be sure they're even 
Christian? They could be praying to (gasp) Satan, for all you know.



 ---In, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I imagine there is a certain amount of civil disobedience involved, such as 
not having to *hide* your faith from the public. And this is the real problem, 
isn't it? It's not really that they are violating Christ's prescription for 
personal prayer.

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <>
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach
   Fine, do it off the field in the clubhouse. There's no need to do it in 



 ---In, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I believe the article says he prayed *after* the game.
 Growing up, it was normal for coaches to lead teams in prayer, not asking for 
victory but protection from injury for all players and a spirit of good 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <>
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach



---In, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 He did give thanks to God a few times in public, but other than that, he's 
described in the Gospels as praying by himself.
 It *is* against what Jesus taught.
 Am I missing something here? You say he did it but then he was against it.

 I said he *didn't* pray in public other than giving thanks a few times.

 And the coach was ostentatiously praying in public at a *football game*, for 
pete's sake, not a session of Congress. As if who wins a football game was high 
on God's list of priorities!


 His mission was that no man needed another, as an intercessory. He was the 
intercessory between man and God. The vail in the temple was torn upon his 
death. No man needed a priest to intercede. Martin Luther busted the Catholic 
Church for doing the same.  

 Yes, people should pray it privacy, daily but he wasn't against group prayer 
or prayer in public


 the coach was doing, to make a big public display of how supposedly devout he 
is. Contemptible.
 You're ascribing motive not proven. Public prayer has been a tradition for 
ages. Check your congressional record.

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <>
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach

   What I quoted is from the Sermon on the Mount. He goes on right after those 
verses and one about not using "vain repetitions" to tell his audience what to 
pray in private: the Lord's Prayer. That's obviously not Jesus "praying in 

 What he was against was praying in public "to be seen by men," as he says in 
what I quoted. And that's exactly what 


 No, it's not against the Constitution. I didn't say it was. 





 ---In, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Of course you know who the hypocrites were that Jesus was referring to, the 
temple priests and pharisees who were arrogant and dressed in their finery and 
tried to impress the public with their knowledge of the Torah. Bull- shit 
artists.Pay for play. You go to the temple, they tell you your sins and and 
what sacrifices needed to be done. Then you bought your lamb from them with 
coinage that you changed into acceptable coinage, at a price, for them. It was 
a racket. 

 Jesus prayed in public a lot. Remember the sermon on the mount?

 Buddha made the same observations about the Brahmins and their system of 
yagyas , pay for play.
 The coach wasn't making any money off of anyone. Simply setting an example. 
Maybe even an example of civil disobedience. His freedom to exercise his 
religion freely, speak freely, and gather peaceably with others voluntarily, 
were being denied. A God given right, granted in the constitution by the Bill 
of Rights.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <>
 Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach

   "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to 
pray...on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already 
have their reward. But when you pray, 
go into 
your inner room, shut your door, and 
pray to 
your Father, who is 
unseen. And your 
Father, who sees what 
is done in secret, will reward you.";


 --Matthew 6:5-6



 ---In, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

  The Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or 
prohibiting the free exercise there of;or abridging the freedom of speech or 
press or the right of the people to peaceably assemble yada yada yada.
 If I were president, my justice department would throw everyone of the school 
board members in jail for denying the coach and his players the right to 
express their religious convictions, denying their free speech,and right to 
peaceably assemble.

 From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <>
 Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Praying football coach

 Christian football coach loses job after praying at games.  (he first prayed 
for some 15-20 sec after each game right on the 50 yard line; not privately).  
Then, team members joined in.  Coach Joe says it's all voluntary.
 No!  ....when your team members start engaging in group activities, whatever 
that may be (even "God" forbid - gang rapes), there's an incentive resulting 
from peer pressure to participate otherwise risk being shunned.
 I've seen the same phenomenon on real-life prison documentaries.  Prisoners 
sometimes are "encouraged" to pray in special sessions where they hold hands 
and praise God.  OK, fine; but try not attending the prayer group.  Next thing 
you'll get a shank in the gut for being a nonconformist.

 Joe Kennedy, praying high school football coach, sues district to get his job 
 Joe Kennedy, praying high school football coach, sues ...
 A former high school football coach has filed a federal lawsuit against a 
Washington state school district after he lost his job for praying on the 
50-yard li...

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