Right again. I am rushing here, but I thought Sal's comments were directed to the larger issue. No problem there. But specifically, it is hard to argue against the idea that contestants in competition like this have a pretty good idea of the overall expectations, whether you find them acceptable or not.
If they find those expectations unreasonable, they can certainly resign the crown. Or, maybe their objective is make a protest about the overall issues Sal has raised. That would be a different story. But, you can't have it both ways. And, to be honest, I thought the lady a bit of weird vibe when I saw her interview on Anderson Cooper. And, she will be the first to admit she is "no saint". Her words. She's done some weird shit herself. Highly unethical shit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Starving young women? Give me a break. They are like athletes in training. They get themselves in shape in order to compete in a contest. No one is forcing them to do it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote : Steve, leaving aside for a moment how disgusting fat shaming…or shaming of any kind is... have you ever gone on a crash diet? Do you have any idea of what it’s like to live with the feeling of being constantly hungry? Not to mention whatever plastic surgery they feel they have to get for their one brief moment in the sun. Now maybe you could say she was being deceptive by accepting the role knowing she most likely couldn’t keep up appearances. But when someone’s “investment” is built on someone else denying themselves, for a whole year, basic sustenance, isn’t that already a major deception? That they all do to one extent or another and that seems to be just fine with Trump, the “owner” of the contest? And isn’t it time to start wondering when we’re going to finally retire and put to bed, permanently, such horrendous examples of fake femininity, fake male dominance, fake ideals of beauty, all built on these very young and most likely desperate women doing things to their bodies that used to be the stuff of science fiction. The*whole thing* is a sick and twisted deception. She most likely just started eating normally again, or however normally you can after doing whatever it is someone feels they need to do to whittle themselves down to a stick. Not to mention there's something truly disgusting about watching someone like Trump cavort and play mind games with these basically starving young women, all vying for his attention, while he goes back to the next lavish buffet as he decides which of them to make his plaything for the next year. Sal On Sep 29, 2016, at 10:57 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: if you are the winner of a Ms. Universe contest and then you go on to gain 60 lbs., I'm not exactly sure you can say you are fulfilling the obligation for that title. There is a certain expectation of physical appearance that I would think would go along with that role. Now, I would say that you should not ridicule or demean that person, but I can understand if the owner of the contest might think, WTF?