Well then, I would call you disciplined.  I eat two meals a day and snack in 
between, and have a soda habit that I have discussed here often.  I don't often 
feel that my stomach is empty, and judging by most people I see, I don't think 
they do either.  It sounds like you have a healthy weight, and you exercise.   

 If you feel that is typical of most people, then you must live in a community 
where good habits are more in evidence.

 Is Fairfield like that?

 Oh, am I sick?  I don't think so. The battery of tests I underwent with my 
plane episode came back indicating no issues.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :

 Are you kidding Steve??  Of course I feel “genuinely" hungry!  (What other 
kind of hunger is there?) Every day, usually about 4-5 hours after I eat a 
regular meal, and my stomach is once more empty.  Especially if I’ve gotten a 
fair amount of exercise, then it might be sooner. Making sure I eat enough 
protein with each meal helps keep the hunger pangs away for a bit longer. 

 I’m not sure I understand why you don’t, and if you really don’t, why losing 
weight is an issue.

 You’re not sick are you?


On Sep 30, 2016, at 6:54 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Just some other thoughts, some directly related, some not. 

 I'm not sure in what context you mean when you say, "any idea of what it's 
like to live with the feeling of being constantly hungry?"

 No, I don't.  I rarely ever have the feeling of being hungry, and I wish to 
felt that way more often. 

 No, I have never gone on a crash diet.  My ongoing plan to lose about 25 lbs 
is to eat less.  A little less all the time.  I am having some success but not 
much.  Losing weight, in my opinion must be coupled with some kind of exercise. 
 I have not been doing much of that lately, either.

 As to the other issues, which you put in a context, I would say, of 
exploitation of women, I would have no comment, except that I don't see 
anything changing there, short of the continuing campaign hi-lighting violence 
against women, or domestic abuse. That has become a more hi profile issue, 
deservedly so, of course.

 To put a damper on girls aspiring to win beauty contests, or become 
cheerleaders, I think is a misdirected objective that can detour into political 
correctness issues, which can also become extreme.


 By the way, do you regularly feel genuinely hungry?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :

 Steve, leaving aside for a moment how disgusting fat shaming…or shaming of any 
kind is... have you ever gone on a crash diet?  Do you have any idea of what 
it’s like to live with the feeling of being constantly hungry?  Not to mention 
whatever plastic surgery they feel they have to get for their one brief moment 
in the sun. 

 Now maybe you could say she was being deceptive by accepting the role knowing 
she most likely couldn’t keep up appearances.  But when someone’s “investment” 
is built on someone else denying themselves, for a whole year, basic 
sustenance, isn’t that already a major deception? That they all do to one 
extent or another and that seems to be just fine with Trump, the “owner” of the 
contest? And isn’t it time to start wondering when we’re going to finally 
retire and put to bed, permanently, such horrendous examples of fake 
femininity, fake male dominance, fake ideals of beauty, all built on these very 
young and most likely desperate women doing things to their bodies that used to 
be the stuff of science fiction.

 The*whole thing* is a sick and twisted deception.   She most likely just 
started eating normally again, or however normally you can after doing whatever 
it is someone feels they need to do to whittle themselves down to a stick.

 Not to mention there's something truly disgusting about watching someone like 
Trump cavort and play mind games with these basically starving young women, all 
vying for his attention, while he goes back to the next lavish buffet as he 
decides which of them to make his plaything for the next year.




On Sep 29, 2016, at 10:57 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 if you are the winner of a Ms. Universe contest and then you go on to gain 60 
lbs., I'm not exactly sure you can say you are fulfilling the obligation for 
that title.  There is a certain expectation of physical appearance that I would 
think would go along with that role.

 Now, I would say that you should not ridicule or demean that person, but I can 
understand if the owner of the contest might think, WTF?



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