What Acem say, is that they give out a sound. They do not do the Puja because they do not want to be associated with Hindu and Religion. The interesting thing is that it has been done some research of the effect of their Meditation Technique,at a University in Norway. And the effect is very good as a stress release technique. Like the TM-Technique. They have Yoga Classes and a lot of themes that they give courses in. The Leader for ACEM is a well- known psychiatrist. Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No puja = no parashakti. Slow, slow path. A dead > mantra. Too bad. Why were they so arrogant as to > remove the puja? Who's name do they teach in? They're > own? Where do they say this practice came from, the > tradition of Gunther? Sound like spiritual fools to > me. Of course all IMHO > -Sri Peter (Knows everything) > > --- Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does anyone know if some TM-Teachers has been in > > court with the TMO? > > In Norway we had one case in the 70ths, where some > > TM-Teachers were > > kicked out of the TMO, and they started their own > > organisation, > > teaching Transcendental Meditation. It was a > > Court-Case where the > > TMO lost. Afterwards it came to an Agreement that > > the TMO paid a lot > > of money to the New Organisation not to use the > > words Transcendental > > meditation. The New Organisation named ACEM is very > > successfull in > > Norway, they are holding courses everywhere > > regularly, they own > > Hotels with great Standards and is very much > > respected. They have > > changed the procedure, do not perform Puja, and has > > taken away > > everything that reminds about MMY. Why they was > > banned, was that > > they started to ask questions about the TMO, > > bookcounting, where > > does the money go, the dogma and MMY. > > Ingegerd > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tmforlife108" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > TMO as a valid employer > > > > > > It will be interesting to see how things shape up > > in South Florida > > with the independent TM > > > teacher there. He recently posted here that he is > > having trouble > > with advertising TM as an > > > "unrecertified teacher". The TMO is trying to > > block that > > activity. Goldstein with MUM legal > > > had written a letter to a magazine there. I just > > found out Mike > > Scozzari has received the > > > standard cease and desist letter from a law firm > > representing the > > TMO. Mike said his legal > > > counsel is advising him not to respond to threats > > unless ordered > > by the courts. In addition > > > to a legal team, he has a publicist here in San > > Francisco that > > wants to do a feature on > > > independents who teach for less should this go to > > court. > > > > > > Back in 1993 here in California one independent > > TM teacher (a > > regular to fairfieldlife) told > > > me he advised the movement they would only hurt > > themselves if > > they took legal action > > > against him. The court and publicity could > > potentially uncover a > > long list of TMO errors > > > and embarrassments. If they threatened trademark > > infringement in > > 1993 but didn't take > > > legal action over all these years, any judge > > would question the > > validity of an unprotected > > > trademark. The California teacher referred to here > > teaches TM as > > an independent today > > > and has helped many people learn the technique > > charging much less > > than the national > > > average, He is successful because he is a good > > teacher. Lets not > > get lost criticizing him > > > for not sharing the income with national. They > > make that > > impossible for someone who > > > wants to make a living at this. Teachers should > > be making the > > majority of the course fee > > > with a small percentage going to the TMO for a > > franchise fee. > > That wold never happen as > > > the movement would not have a stronghold on the > > purse and > > therefore a stronghold on > > > the teacher. > > > > > > With the latest round of TMO stupidity and > > recertification to > > teach, and with promises for > > > salaries not kept, what legitimate U.S. court > > would accept the TMO > > as a valid employer? > > > I agree in part with an earlier post from spraig@ > > - The TMO does > > have the right to it's > > > trademark protection. L'm not an attorney either > > but if the owner > > of the trademark fails to > > > protect it and misuses it......that could be a > > very interesting > > question for the courts to look > > > at. The TMO has demonstrated itself to be an > > unreliable employer > > incapable of fulfilling > > > it's promises, withdrawing promised salaries with > > the latest > > recertification project. If > > > teachers pay to train to teach and the trademark > > owner makes that > > impossible, who then > > > has the right to use the trademark? The argument > > could be made in > > court that > > > overwhelming evidence exists to sue the tm org for > > Fraudulent & > > Deceptive & Exploitative > > > employment practices. > > > > > > I thought the letter to the magazine in south > > Florida was > > threatening. This TMO tactic is > > > designed to frighten and why go after the > > magazine. The > > recertified teachers there are > > > probably ticked off that someone is competing with > > them. > > Competition is good and > > > everyone should teach! I received an e-mail which > > I think did a > > good job of summing up: > > > > > > "The national course fee in the US set by the > > Transcendental > > Meditation Organization is 5 > > > times what it was in 1993. Consequently the > > numbers are way down, > > people are not > > > starting. Many experienced/certified teachers > > throughout the U.S. > > have had to settle the > > > problem of runaway prices by privately offering TM > > instruction at > > very reasonable rates. > > > Without compromising the original effective > > technique, TM can now > > be learned for less. > > > It's the same technique. People everywhere, rich > > or poor, should > > have the opportunity to > > > take the course and follow-up lessons." > > > > > > I wonder how many TM teachers there are who would > > like to teach if > > they knew they would > > > not be threatened. This latest event could be the > > rallying point > > for all of them - and don't > > > kid yourself, there are many! Of the 40K trained > > in the US, and > > so few teaching, there are > > > still many who would love to teach and could make > > a difference. I > > know the attorneys in > > > south Florida have been talking about a fund to > > help cover the > > costs if they go to trail. If > > > all TM teachers could benefit, independence could > > be for all. > > Maybe they are already free > > > of this and just don't realize it! > > > > > > Daniel Jeffers > > > > > > Sent to me from one recertified teacher from > > California......regarding TMO threat to the > > > magazine in Florida: > > > > > > "If anyone should be censored, it is the tm org. > > For trying to > > monopolize a universally- > > > beneficial spiritual teaching, and for trying to > > intimidate & > > prohibit qualified teachers from > > > sharing this teaching with the public. Most > > publications are > > natural advocates of free > > > speech. In our society we celebrate diversity of > > opinions & > > teachings & lifestyles. 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