--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd never thought about it before, but it seems to
> > me
> > as I read your question that "satirical" and
> > "passive-
> > aggressive" are virtually synonymous.  There are
> > other
> > forms of passive-aggressive behavior, of course, but
> > I'm not sure there's any such thing as satire that
> > isn't passive-aggressive, by its very nature.
> I agree with you. Satire, by its very nature "leans"
> in the direction of passive-aggressive behavior. But
> when it crosses into sarcasm then it truly has become
> passive-aggressive.
> > On the other hand, that wouldn't mean indulging in
> > satire was necessarily a sign of some kind of
> > psychopathology or personality disorder.
> Agreed. It's not neccessarily pathological. Good
> satire is hilarious and an effective way of
> confronting interpersonal/social problems in a certain
> context.
> > 
> > I'll be interested to see what Peter has to say on 
> > this score.  I may well be misunderstanding what he
> > means by passive-aggressive.  But from a literary
> > rather than a purely psychological perspective, I
> > think it may be an apt way to characterize satire.
> I think satire arises when there's a certain loss of
> one's voice. One is not being heard by another so you
> begin to satirize the very thing that prevents you
> from being heard. You don't take certain aspects of
> the other person/institution seriously and you mock
> these aspects. Legitimized governments never engage in
> satire, they are deadly serious....and their
> seriousness is open to satire. Sacasm though, is truly
> passive-aggressive and indicates that, for what ever
> reason, all civility is called-off and now we'll
> attempt to impugn another to remove any vestige of
> legitimacy they might have. 
eg. Effective satire: Search for a Queen for King Tony ;-) 


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