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Subject: Re: Oriel College, Oxford

Hallelujah. Kudos to Oriel College say-it-like-is administrator. He would be 
out on his ear in our insanely politically correct USA. Even as a liberal, I am 
sick of our colossal hyper-sensitivity about blacks, women, hispanics, American 
Indians, gays, ad nauseam. What's next? Easter Islanders? 
Barbara Gilmore

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On Sep 30, 2017, at 12:34 PM, LOGAN CHEEK III <l...@me.com> wrote:

WOW! A truly mind-blowing refresher.

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The following was passed to me by Tom Lee ’67 (ΔKE & HGS).
This message came from a Family in South Africa. It appears that some black 
students from South Africa are studying at Oriel College, Oxford, on Rhodes 
Scholarships. They have taken exception to the presence of a bronze bust of 
Cecil John Rhodes, the great imperialist and the one who established the trust 
from which the scholarships that bear his name are funded to this day. They are 
demanding that it be removed. This is the wonderful response by the Dean of the 
College. Students at that College are known as "Scrotties" for some reason.



Dear Scrotty Students,


Cecil Rhodes’s generous bequest has contributed greatly to the comfort

and well being of many generations of Oxford students – a good many of

them, dare we say it, better, brighter and more deserving than you.


This does not necessarily mean we approve of everything Rhodes did in

his lifetime – but then we don’t have to. Cecil Rhodes died over a

century ago. Autres temps, autres moeurs 2. If you don’t understand what

this means – and it would not remotely surprise us if that were the case

– then we really think you should ask yourself the question: “Why am I

at Oxford?”


Oxford, let us remind you, is the world’s second oldest extant

university. Scholars have been studying here since at least the 11th

century. We’ve played a major part in the invention of Western

civilisation, from the 12th century intellectual renaissance through the

Enlightenment and beyond. Our alumni include William of Ockham, Roger

Bacon, William Tyndale, John Donne, Sir Walter Raleigh, Erasmus, Sir

Christopher Wren, William Penn, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), Samuel Johnson,

Robert Hooke, William Morris, Oscar Wilde, Emily Davison, Cardinal

Newman. We’re a big deal. And most of the people privileged to come and

study here are conscious of what a big deal we are. Oxford is their alma

mater – their dear mother – and they respect and revere her accordingly.


And what were your ancestors doing in that period? Living in mud huts,

mainly. Sure we’ll concede you the short lived Southern African

civilisation of Great Zimbabwe. But let’s be brutally honest here. The

contribution of the Bantu tribes to modern civilisation has been as near

as damn it to zilch.


You’ll probably say that’s “racist”. But it’s what we here at Oxford

prefer to call “true.” Perhaps the rules are different at other

universities. In fact, we know things are different at other

universities. We’ve watched with horror at what has been happening

across the pond from the University of Missouri to the University of

Virginia and even to revered institutions like Harvard and Yale: the

“safe spaces”; the ??blacklivesmatter; the creeping cultural relativism;

the stifling political correctness; what Allan Bloom rightly called “the

closing of the American mind”. At Oxford however, we will always prefer

facts and free, open debate to petty grievance-mongering, identity

politics and empty sloganeering. The day we cease to do so is the day we

lose the right to call ourselves the world’s greatest university.


Of course, you are perfectly within your rights to squander your time at

Oxford on silly, vexatious, single-issue political campaigns. (Though it

does make us wonder how stringent the vetting procedure is these days

for Rhodes scholarships and even more so, for Mandela Rhodes

scholarships) We are well used to seeing undergraduates – or, in your

case – postgraduates, making idiots of themselves. Just don’t expect us

to indulge your idiocy, let alone genuflect before it. You may be black

– “BME” as the grisly modern terminology has it – but we are colour

blind. We have been educating gifted undergraduates from our former

colonies, our Empire, our Commonwealth and beyond for many generations.

We do not discriminate over sex, race, colour or creed. We do, however,

discriminate according to intellect.


That means, inter alia, that when our undergrads or postgrads come up

with fatuous ideas, we don’t pat them on the back, give them a red

rosette and say: “Ooh, you’re black and you come from South Africa. What

a clever chap you are!”  No. We prefer to see the quality of those ideas

tested in the crucible of public debate. That’s another key part of the

Oxford intellectual tradition you see: you can argue any damn thing you

like but you need to be able to justify it with facts and logic –

otherwise your idea is worthless.


This ludicrous notion you have that a bronze statue of Cecil Rhodes

should be removed from Oriel College, because it’s symbolic of

“institutional racism” and “white slavery”. Well even if it is – which

we dispute – so bloody what? Any undergraduate so feeble-minded that

they can’t pass a bronze statue without having their “safe space”

violated really does not deserve to be here. And besides, if we were to

remove Rhodes’s statue on the premise that his life wasn’t blemish-free,

where would we stop? As one of our alumni Dan Hannan has pointed out,

Oriel’s other benefactors include two kings so awful – Edward II and

Charles I – that their subjects had them killed. The college opposite –

Christ Church – was built by a murderous, thieving bully who bumped off

two of his wives. Thomas Jefferson kept slaves: does that invalidate the

US Constitution? Winston Churchill had unenlightened views about Muslims

and India: was he then the wrong man to lead Britain in the war?”


Actually, we’ll go further than that. Your Rhodes Must Fall campaign is

not merely fatuous but ugly, vandalistic and dangerous. We agree with

Oxford historian RW Johnson that what you are trying to do here is no

different from what ISIS and the Al-Qaeda have been doing to artefacts

in places like Mali and Syria. You are murdering history.


And who are you, anyway, to be lecturing Oxford University on how it

should order its affairs? Your ??Rhodes Must Fall campaign, we

understand, originates in South Africa and was initiated by a black

activist who told one of his lecturers “whites have to be killed”. One

of you – Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh – is the privileged son of a rich politician

and a member of a party whose slogan is “Kill the Boer; Kill the

Farmer”; another of you, Ntokozo Qwabe, who is only in Oxford as a

beneficiary of a Rhodes scholarship, has boasted about the need for

“socially conscious black students” to “dominate white universities, and

do so ruthlessly and decisively!”


Great. That’s just what Oxford University needs. Some cultural

enrichment from the land of Winnie Mandela, burning tyre necklaces, an

AIDS epidemic almost entirely the result of government indifference and

ignorance, one of the world’s highest per capita murder rates,

institutionalised corruption, tribal politics, anti-white racism and a

collapsing economy. Please name which of the above items you think will

enhance the lives of the 22,000 students studying here at Oxford.


And then please explain what it is that makes your attention grabbing

campaign to remove a listed statue from an Oxford college more urgent,

more deserving than the desire of probably at least 20,000 of those

22,000 students to enjoy their time here unencumbered by the irritation

of spoilt, ungrateful little tossers on scholarships they clearly don’t

merit using racial politics and cheap guilt-tripping to ruin the life

and fabric of our beloved university.


Understand us and understand this clearly: You have everything to learn

from us; we have nothing to learn from you.


Yours, Oriel College, Oxford

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