Recognizing the debasing energetics of vices, Vasanas..as they arise is this whole ‘nother take on.. “ !Repent Sinners! “ as spiritual practice. Guru Dev cautioned similar awareness of behavior. Jai Guru Dev.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Thanks, this is interesting. What we have evidently learned in ™ is that behavior and spiritual state are not so tightly correlated, at all. But also that the energetics of behavior can affect the bodily vessel of spiritual state. Some time shortly before MMY died I went down to read archives of the Shakers and looked particularly at their mystic founder, Mother Ann and then how it went for their spiritual practice movement of village ashrams after her death which they had built up.. It dawned on me in reading in to their spiritual practices they incorporated part of your perspective also in the life of their practices, but primarily theirs was including a regular meditation like ours and the effect of group meditative superradiance. This repenting (recognizing) immediately a base thought as it arises is an interesting release to that energy of a thought.. Averting the spiritual energetic sin-danger of a thought before it arises or lodges further in to the psycho-spiritual system. The Shakers in those days apparently had something going in total. After the founding generation had passed away it all became institutional, a lot of work with no shakti, and people withdrew to something else. Some perspective on the Shakers.. Shaker Meditative Practice https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/communal-studies-forum/0wLtbs5giDo https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/communal-studies-forum/0wLtbs5giDo Tyranny in Administration, Shaker Elder Philemon Stewart https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/communal-studies-forum/PXOdRY1SlUY https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/communal-studies-forum/PXOdRY1SlUY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dbra...@yahoo.com> wrote : The six internal enemies are doing more than nipping at our heels. They are diseases of the mind, deeply rooted throughout. For example, as an exercise I monitor my thoughts during the day. How many times do I find myself criticizing others? How many times do I find myself offering advice that was just pride in disguise? It is revealing and shocking. And what about anger, greed, lust, etc? Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, the 15th century saint (said to be an incarnation of Sri Radha Rani), distilled his spiritual teaching into three points. 1. Be more humble than a blade of grass. The blade of grass is continually being stepped on. It does not complain. It just bounces back. 2. Be more tolerant than a tree. The tree gives shade even to him who cuts off its branches. It gives fruit to the person who throws rocks at it to retrieve its fruit. 3. Always offer respect to others and never expect any in return. Perhaps behaviors are the best indicator of our spiritual progress. netineti108 writes: This may twist a few minds.... Some of the greatest devotees of Lord Vishnu in history were asuras, Prahlada and Vibhishana to name two. The six internal enemies, called Arishadvargas, are always nipping at our heels. 1. kama — lust 2. krodha — anger 3. lobha — greed 4. moha — delusory emotional attachment or temptation 5. mada — pride, hubris, (being possessed by) 6. matsarya — envy, jealousy What differentiates devatas from the asuras? The asuras chase and embrace these qualities, whereas the Devatas shun them and choose only Jnana(Knowledge) and the Lord. Liberated or not in a human form, these dogs are there. Yogis can and do succumb to them. Now think about this... Asuras love and chase powers....TMO Siddhi program. To take credit for and thinking they are the ones creating positive changes in the world is "Mada". How does attempting to create a World Government with a new currency not fit into these categories? The wise shun the siddhis. If one were to study Puranic literature, they would see that siddhis are boons given by the Gods and Goddess' because of devotion. To chase after them to gain powers is an asuric tendency. Not judging as I was chasing them as well.