--- In [email protected], Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 12/24/05 8:12 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > MMY started talking about the CIA in the mid-70's to
> > international staff. I had a good friend on staff then
> > and she told me that everyone was a bit baffled by the
> > whole thing and would politely listen and not say
> > anything. It was the beginning of MMY blaming any TMO
> > failure on an outside agency. Was it pure fantasy or
> > was there a least something to trigger the initial
> > accusations? Who knows.
> 
> I heard him do the CIA thing many times. He would be speaking to a 
group,
> such as the Vedic Science course in New Delhi, and then begin to 
address the
> CIA spies in the group, saying basically, "You know who you are 
and I'm hip
> to you." He would often become quite enraged at these times. One 
time at the
> Minister Training Course in Thailand, he was on one of these rants 
and my
> friend Roy Bachmeyer was taking notes, as we often did on courses. 
Maharishi
> accused him of being a spy and began going on about his reporting 
back to
> his superiors.
>

Right after I got back from TTC in '74, a few initiators at my 
center started getting involved with -- for lack of a better word -- 
a faith-healer in Nebraska whom they would send money to and she 
would work on your aura or some such thing and remove negative 
energy from you.  Well, the initiator who was into it the most swore 
that MMY not only knew about this but actually recommended it.  As a 
result virtually every initiator in the center was doing it and 
sending money to the faith-healer.

I am proud to say that I was virtually the ONLY initiator who didn't 
and, indeed, I stuck to my guns and proclaimed that it was not TMO 
policy and that MMY would never endorse such a thing.  As a result, 
I went through a period of being shunned by most of the center's 
initiators.

Of course, I was vindicated because a few months later a 
pronouncement came down from Switzerland that MMY disapproved of it 
and commanded everyone to stop having anything to do with it.

As a result of this incident I swore to myself that I would never 
believe rumours I heard about MMY that common sense told me wasn't 
true.

So when, in the early '80s, I first heard the CIA rumours I 
discounted them as untrue; as unfounded rumours, things that MMY 
could not possible have said.  I felt 100% confident that I was 
right.

But for the next 15 years I kept hearing the same rumours.  And 
then, finally, around 1998-99 I was at a TMO get-together and, lo 
and behold, right on a video tape of MMY the man himself made a CIA-
is-infiltrating-the-TMO statement himself.  And I was floored.

Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the 
world.  But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and 
irrationally paranoid which is what MMY very well may be if he 
thinks the TMO has been spied upon and infiltrated by the CIA.

I think it is despicable to blame either an individual or an 
organisation of crimes without offering proof and evidence of 
culpability. It is plain wrong and immoral.

What Peter writes above is probably more accurate: when things go 
wrong you find a scapegoat to blame the mistake on instead of 
looking to yourself.  Perhaps there is a correlation between the 
frequency of the CIA statements he made and the demise of the TMO!






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