--- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Rick Archer wrote: > > > > And although on some superficial level it may be > true that the "vibratory > > influence" of the mantra causes TM to work, > ultimately, the benefits result > > from aligning oneself with the "impulse of > intelligence" or Devata that the > > mantra represents. > > Is there any way to tell whether TM's influence > results > from the mantra's vibe or from the experience of > pure > consciousness, which is what happens when the mantra > > fades away? > > The old TM explanation always made sense to me -- > that > the mantra is a sound that tends to go away, leaving > one's > awareness without an object; leaving it aware of > awareness > itself. > > This notion that TM's benefits come from the sound's > vibration, > or from an entity associated with that sound, seems > primitive. > Inelegant. Sub-Occam. But as I ask above, who can > tell? > > We have lots of people here who've used TM mantras > at > some length. I'd love to read people's experiences > in terms > of what each of us has observed firsthand in all > these > decades of using our mantras. Get this discussion > out > of the realm of theory and into our direct > experiences. TM mantras, at least the one I use, produces very thick, deep bliss for the mind. Vipassana meditation or Atma-vichara does not produce bliss. These produce extreme mental clarity. TM also produces this mental clarity, but there is also the bliss component > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
