--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], "Patrick
> > Gillam" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- sparaig wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Being without expectations becomes less and less
> > easy the more 
> > you 
> > > > hear your own and other's experiences,
> > especially in a casual 
> > context.
> > > 
> > > If I'd reading you right, Lawson, you're saying
> > it's better 
> > > to be innocent, without expectations fostered by
> > hearing 
> > > other people's experiences. If that's the case,
> > why do you 
> > > hang out in a forum like this, where people
> > describe 
> > > their experiences in and out of meditation? So you
> > > quickly close such posts before reading them, or
> > what?
> > >
> > 
> > I often skim over the experiences part. Its like
> > reading my mantra: 
> > my eyes are trained to not dwell on it in general
> > because I become 
> > uncomfortable for one reason or another. Likewise
> > with experiences, 
> > although MY experiences during/after TM have swung
> > so widely and 
> > wildly over the years that I don't put much stock in
> > any experience, 
> > my own or anyone else's.
> 
> The only value in hearing about others' experiencing
> is that it is entertaining and it can clarify certain
> concepts that pertain to higher states of
> consciousness. Having a quiver of these concepts at
> your ready is helpful so the mind won't go insane when
> it starts to experience realization. 
> > 
> 

Too late for me, but I'm not sure that "realization" is the word to 
use in my case...





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