--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- uns_tressor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Peter
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > The gnostic tradition of the Christian church was
> > > almost utterly crushed-out by the 400AD.
> > 
> > Intriguing. What happened?
> > Uns.
> 
> Elaine Pagels writes about it in "The Gnostic
> Gospels". With the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls
> and the Nag Hammadi Library, it's become clear that
> the first few 100 years after Christ's death that
> there were two Christian traditions. One was
> experiential, the Gnostic, and the other is what
> survives today.  To find out more about it, Pagels is
> a good place to start. She's a serious, academic
> researcher. Why the gnostic tradition died out is open
> to hypothesis, but the direct experiential realization
> of Christ was replaced by conceptual dogma. 

There is also some translation being done currently
on the most interesting of the Dead Sea scrolls, 
which is a gospel according to Judas (Iscariot). The
language leaves absolutely no question that Judas 
was a gnostic, and thus opens the question of whether
his teacher (Christ) was.

However, if you're about to dive into gnosticism in
hopes of finding parallels to Eastern mysticism and
unity, you'd best prepare yourself for a shock.
*Nothing* could possibly be more dualistic than 
gnosticism; its very philosophical foundations are
called 'dualism.'  In the strictest forms of gnos-
ticism, not only is there no concept of Unity, it
was believed that the realms of spirit and matter
were *so* different that the latter was not even
created by God.  Really.  Earth and all the material
world was created by Satan or the Demiurge (depending
on who you believe and what you read).  It's a fas-
cinating and interesting study, but prepare yourself
for the *opposite* of unity, not its personification.







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