--- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I posted the link of my source. 






Okay...I went to the link found at the posting where you made the 
original claims that you did at...

http://www.watsonwyatt.com/europe/pubs/longtermstats/render2.asp?
ID=14440

...and there is NOTHING there that goes back to 1968.

So where exactly did you get the 12.3 factor? 

Again, I think you goofed by doubling it somewhere along the line, 
Luke.  I especially think this is the case because you wrote that 
you had to do some "multiplication" to get it back to '68 and I 
think you accidently doubled it when you shouldn't have.

Check your figures, please, and get back to us and, please, and if 
you're wrong, let us know.









> 
> I also posted 5 or so examples that supported the 12 x factor.
> 
> Read the post Luke.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 8...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When I taught full time I never saw myself as "selling 
mantras" 
> > or
> > > > some such thing, but charging for the cost of maintaining a 
> > center,
> > > > publicity and other expenses, and a maintainance lifestyle 
for 
> > me the
> > > > teacher - plus of course giving about 1/2 to the parent corp 
as a
> > > > franchise fee for its role in developing the product and 
> > conducting
> > > > other support operations - at least that's the business 
angle on
> //> > > understanding the course fee for TM. In short you're 
charging 
> > for the
> > > > cost of making tm easy and convenient for someone in the US 
to 
> > learn.
> > > 
> > > Agreed.
> > > 
> > > > I think that was fair when the cost was $75-$175 which it 
was 
> > when I
> > > > taught. Now with the fee at $2500 or more, that whole model 
> > breaks
> > > > down in my mind.
> > > 
> > > I just checked an inflation index from 1968 -- when prices were
> > > $75/$35 for adults and students. Prices have increased by a 
factor 
> > of
> > > 12.3 times since then.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Where did you get your figures?  Because when I 
googled "consumer 
> > price index history" I came up with a table showing a MUCH 
different 
> > result from 1968 to 2005 than 12.3 times.
> > 
> > According to the Consumer Price Index found at the U.S. 
Department 
> > of Labor at 
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/cpi/cpiai.txt , 
> > the CPI in January 1968 was 34.1; in January 2005 it was 190.7.
> > 
> > Now, according to MY calculater that's an increase by a factor 
of 
> > 5.6, NOT 12.3 as you stated(curiously, 5.6 is almost exactly 
half of 
> > 12.3 so maybe you accidentally doubled your figures when you did 
the 
> > math).
> > 
> > Unless my math is wrong (and I will stand corrected if someone 
> > points out an error on my part), a $35.00 initiation fee in 1968 
> > would therefore be $196.00 today.
> > 
> > A $75.00 initiation fee in 1968 would therefore be $420.00 today.
> > 
> > Extrapolate all you want from there, and add all and anything 
you 
> > think is justified from there, but I don't think there's any way 
you 
> > can come up with anything anywhere near $2,500...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > A surprisingly large factor, but then again, adult theatre 
tickets
> > > were around $1, a gal of gas around $.3, a nice middle class 
home 
> > in
> > > the SF Bay Area was $30,000, a large Hersheys chocolate bar 
with
> > > almonds was $.10, etc., an all day ski lift ticket at a 
premier 
> > area
> > > was $5 ($75 now), hardbound "best sellers were around $2, a 
new VW
> > > was $1200 or so (I think), etc.
> > > 
> > > Thus in "today's dollars", the 1968 equivalent price TM for an 
> > adult
> > > is about $925.
> > > 
> > > One could argue (not me particularly) that the value of the 
product
> > > has increased due to the availability of adjunct products that 
are 
> > now
> > > available to enhance the core product: AV, SV, GV, jyotish, 
yagyas,
> > > gems, sidhis, collective consiousness, etc.
> > > 
> > > Thus a price of $1500-2000 would not be unreasonable given the 
more
> > > complete product portfolio available compared to the lone 
product
> > > offering at $925.
> > > 
> > > An extra $500 (25%) ($20 in 1968 terms) is added 
for "humanitarian
> > > projects" not unlike what some firms like Starbucks and Ben and
> > > Jerry's do (thought their percentage may be different).
> > > 
> > > Voila $2500 is "reasonable". And not so far off from 1968 
prices. 
> > And
> > > heck, you get a King thrown in for free!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > (See link. You need to do some multiplication to get the index 
> > back 38
> > > years.)
> > > 
http://www.watsonwyatt.com/europe/pubs/longtermstats/render2.asp?
> > ID=14440
> > >
> >
>







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