--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:17 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: > >> > >>> Well, if you mean enlightenment to mean "something good is > > happening", > >>> then fine. Its just traditionally the term has been used in > > specific > >>> ways. And in recent years some have hijacked the term and used it > > to > >>> label almost anything, BUT implying that they mean the same as > >>> traditional "enlightenment". Its a bit of a charlatan's game is > > some > >>> caes, IMO. > >> > >> Bottom line: the words for different "states" of enlightenment > > just > >> don't exist in English. That's why I always insist my > > enlightenment > >> has the 100% Vedic tag :-)...no seriously...in their correct > > sense, > >> the Sanskrit names relating to the different states of > > consciousness > >> have a precise meaning. That's not to say everyone needs to parrot > >> out the same description, everyone's different. > >> > >> IME the vast majority of people claiming "enlightenment", in > > Vedantic > >> terms, have had a taste of the Self. "Self-recognition". Grokked > > the > >> View. > >> > >> It doesn't mean we've carried the View, have gained confidence in > > the > >> View or are established in it. If we can rest in the View for long > >> enough, signs manifest. It's precisely because these signs aren't > >> mentioned, it's natural to wonder. > >> > > > > DO yuo know what "grok" means? > > Just what I got from Heinlein and how it's used in common use now. > > Read Stranger in a Strange Land, then you'll get it. Well, maybe. >
Obviously you didn't grok grok. BTW,there is a specific meaning given in the book itself. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
