--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "mainstream20016"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > on 1/17/06 3:59 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Isn't there SOMEONE around him willing to say: Hey,
Maharishi, can
> > > >>> we get around to teaching TM sometime soon so we can spiritually
> > > >>> regenerate the world?
> > > >> 
> > > >> Say something like that and you're out on your ass. Not just
> because the
> > > >> yes-men want it that way. Because Maharishi does. He made the
> yes men,
> > > >> allowed them to be close to him, and distanced or banished
everyone
> > > > else.
> > > >> 
> > > > 
> > > > As soon as they stop saying 'yes', they're history. Charlie,
Jerry,
> > > > Domash, Donahue, Chopra.... Haeglin, not yet, but he's salaried.
> Isn't
> > > > it odd that no one stayed....
> > > 
> > > True. They all became a bit too "independent" in their thinking.
> > >
> > 
> > mainstream20016 writes:
> >       Despite the consistent disappointments delivered to TMers via
> the TMO (MMY), I think
> > that MMY and his organization have accomplished a great deal in
> their 50 year history. 
> >  Many, many thousands of persons have contributed to the
> achievements, from TM 
> > teachers, TMO institution staff,  and regular CPs who chose to spend
> their time and 
> > resources on TMO courses rather than on some secular activity that
> would not have 
> > accrued benefit to the TMO.- Overall, a collective effort of
> tremendous aggregate value 
> > has been placed into the TMO. 
> >        Many talented  individuals who contributed much to MMY and
> the TMO have found 
> > they're not needed any longer by MMY and the TMO, much like any
> other organization that 
> > experiences defections when the individual's needs don't match the
> organization's needs 
> > for full commitment to the organization's direction.
> >       FFLife displays a stream of criticism directed against MMY and
> the TMO. I reflect on 
> > the criticism, and often concur that I, too, might do things
> differently than MMY and the 
> > TMO have decided.  Yet, I reserve overt verbal judgement against MMY
> and the TMO as I 
> > ponder whether I really would do differently were I in their shoes.
>  I think about the ways 
> > of the world, about MMYs legendary negotiating moves, etc. yet
> appreciate his dogged 
> > insistence to achieve the better result to advance his
> organization's interests.      
> >         Of course, it would be wonderful if MMY and the TMO were
> beyond reproach by any 
> > measure.   The world is a huge system that demands proof of the
> validity of any idea or 
> > proposal before embracing the idea or proposal. MMY and the TMO are
> constantly having 
> > to validate their ideas and proposals to a highly skeptical world. 
>  I find scant evidence of 
> > others' efforts doing anywhere nearly as well as MMY and the TMO in
> trying to do the 
> > greatest good possible with what they have had to offer.
> >        So go ahead, continue with critique of every possible aspect
> of MMY and the TMO.
> > Oh, and by the way, would you mind contrasting their foibles by
> occasionally providing  
> > evidence of your own outstanding accomplishments in providing what
> you have to offer 
> > the world for the greatest good possible ?
> >
> You're exactly right about the tremendous accomplishment and the
> change in collective consciousness brought about by the TMO at it's
> best. The contributions of 100's of thousands working to bring simple
> consciousness closer to the surface. It's just not available now. 
> That's the point. 
> 
> JohnY
>
Far more than foibles, it's the corruption of a vision that was the
driving force in many, many lives.

JohnY






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