--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I can't see that "waking state candy ass" is a > > > description of anything, > > > > Sure it is. Look at how Ramana and Nisgardatta and > > many other masters treat people that approach them > > whinning for a coherent, waking state explanation of > > Self. They just smash their " waking state candy ass" > > approach to facilitate the direct experience of Self > > rather than talking about it endlessly. They're doing > > them a wonderful favor. > > I agree with you completely. I think feste's just > hung up on the word 'ass' because of your spelling. > Where I'm from, the term is spelled 'candyass,' all > as one word, and has nothing to do with 'ass' or > 'asses,' merely with being a wuss. > > What I think we're poking fun at is the folks who > seem to believe that the universe owes them a > description of enlightenment that makes sense to > them from the state of ignorance. > > In my experience, the goal of such people seems to > be to convince themselves that they "understand" > enlightenment. Also in my experience, they prefer > to believe that they "understand" it rather than > to experience it, because to do that would require > that they drop the self. It's the self, after all, > that seeks to "understand."
And I guess there is a third group, beyond the candyassers and smug-a-litists: those that find humor in the pretentious advaita-speak of some that while often inconsistent from its own state of reference*- is sold to the naive as a "paradox of Brahman". (Examples being: i) "in enlightenment there is no absolutely ego AT ALL, ANYWHERE, but hey if someone says they experience ego in enlightenment, 'kewl, its groovy'", and ii) "in enlightenment there is no absolutely ego AT ALL, ANYWHERE, I am enlightened, but I get really insulted sometimes (a lot actually) which is a dimishment of my sense of ego, but I have no ego, and if you see contradictions here, you are so candy-assed not enlightened (like me) you just cant GET it in your dimwitted, ignorant waking state", or iii) "I am so enlightened, and that means my intellect is perfect, and by definition I cannot make cognitive errors, yet my reading comprehenion skills are below a 6th grade level, and if you see contradictions here, you are so candy-assed not enlightened (like me) you just can't GET it in your dimwitted of , ignorant waking state. Its just the paradox of brahman. Who I am. Which I see in all beings -- even the assholes outthere who I wish would chock and die." *inconsistent from its own state of reference - refers to each state of consciousness, and each corresponding (per some) system of Indian philosopy, is consistent within its own sphere. Contradictions arise between systems, not within a system. Thus not all, in fact not many paradoxes and contradictions can be pawned off as the "paradox of brahamn." Usually they are just dimwitted remarks from a coudy vision. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
