--Yes, Fred Lenz was a lunatic too. Re the article presented on Creme, (the supposed list of facts), some of them are in a gray area of contention; but the bottom line IMO, must point to the direct or circumstantial evidence regarding his very existence. He should at least make some type of physical appearance, more substantial than some easily doctored photos of some guy in Nairobi with a turban and a beard, wearing a white robe. Even the most camera shy Gurus have made some type of appearance such that people can verify he really exists. Take Guru Dev, the living embodiment of humility. People demanded hims to come out and be carried on a palanquin. He didn't look like the type of person to get caught up into fanfare and popular hoopla, but at least he showed up. Where's Maitreya? Where's the beef? there is little to none. > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > If you pulled your head > > out long enough to actually read some of the things > > printed about Mr. Creme by those in the larger > > spiritual community, you'd know that he is regarded > > almost universally at best as a joke, at worst as a > > charlatan. > > Thats an interesting criteria to evaluate a > teacher that one is drawn to: how "the larger > spiritual community" evaluates them > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view Fred Lenz -- who became > Rama? > > http://skepdic.com/rama.html > > http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/williams-article.html > > http://www.cultnews.com/index.php/category/swamirama/ > > With my less-than-half brain, I took the first three articles that > Google spit out. Maybe you have some cites from "the larger spiritual > community" that view Lenz favorably. > > Maybe Lup has such for Creme. > > How does "the larger spiritual community" view MMY? > > Was the Lenz trip a waste of time? Was the Maharishi gig? Have > you spent decades chasing things that "sound too good to be true"? >
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