doctor_gabby_savy wrote:

>--- In [email protected], "Premanand Paul Mason"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>Well, for starters your posts always seem to me to be reasonably 
>>polite, which is welcome. 
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>Thanks.
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>>I think if posters maintained politeness 
>>that would be a really good way forward.
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>Politeness is usually a more effective way of communicating and
>critiquing another's posts.  Peter once said  several years ago that I
>was overly polite and admonished me to loosen up and speak my mind,not
>to sugar coat it.  In my words he was saying, "be more neutrally
>blunt."  He appears, at times, to not like the result of his advice, haha.
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>I don't find personal attacks that effective, though sometimes neutral
>bluntness is called for.  Often some people view a neutral, perhaps
>blunt at times, criticism of thier ideas, logic, facts or clarity as a
>personal attacks. This is a cognitive error that appears to cause them
>much grief. And results in their lashing out at the "phantom" attacker
>-- when indeed there is no snake, only a rope. There is no personal
>attack only a critique of their facts, logic, etc.
>
>As an aside, I think the mistake of equating criticsm of ones ideas
>and logic with "personal attacks" may have to do with a strong sense
>of identity with ones thoughts, ideas, conclusions and intellectual
>insights. Which becomes odd, though in my view a bit entertaining,
>when such is exhibited with "one" claiming Atman realization, or even
>Brahman realization. 
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>Ownership and identity with petty things like thoughts and
>intellectual creations certainly wanes in the process of consciouness
>waking up to itself. From day one of transcennding IME. To claim full
>wakefulness of consiousness to itself, while still strongly exhibiting
>strong attachment to and identity with ones mental processes and
>output is an experiential oxymoron in my view and experience.
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I've been on forums way back to CompuServe in the early 1980's.  On all 
groups over the years I subscribe to there would be flare-ups over how 
people post and the value of what they post.  These would always simmer 
down and the discussion group would return to normal.  

One person's *brilliant observations* can be another person's snore.  
TM'ers, by and large being Saraswati worshipers tend to overvalue the 
intellect in spite of what Maharishi taught on that.  IMHO, Rick, to his 
credit, maintains a reasonably loose discussion group here.  It is a 
group that fills a need.

I also think some readers are so *serious* here they miss that some 
posters are *ribbing* somebody when they *appear* impolite.  It is an 
interesting test on the humor meter which by the way is usually rates 
very high in realized beings.



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