--- In [email protected], "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Your recollection is incorrect.  I don't *know* that
> > > > > > > the experiences (of levitation, someone turning 
> > > > > > > invisible, etc.) would have been captured on video
> > > > > > > or in a photograph.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Most of us wouldn't find that to be "real" in the 
> > > > > > > > usual sense of hte word.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Most of us" can go suck eggs.  What others believe 
> > > > > > > or don't believe is real doesn't affect me in any 
way.  :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The question is, does "Barry really saw X" translate
> > > > > > into "X is real"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Who ever claimed that it does?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Who *cares* if it does?
> > > > > 
> > > > > If it was real *for me* that is the *most* I can say.
> > > > > That's enough.  I have no interest in convincing
> > > > > people that my reality should be theirs.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > You seem to.  You seem obsessed with finding some
> > > > > objective definition of "reality."
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, Barry, Lawson's right.  You really *are* stupid.
> > > > Or you *get* stupid, or *play* stupid, at times,
> > > > apparently because it gives you another opportunity
> > > > for a putdown.
> > > > 
> > > > What I was suggesting, of course, is exactly the
> > > > opposite: that *all* "reality" is subjective.
> > > 
> > > Then we are in agreement.
> > > 
> > > And yet, you're acting all huffy.  Go figure.  :-)
> > >
> > 
> > Some realities are more universally agreed upon than others.
> >
> +++ That must make some realities more real than others.
>     Reminds me of the great philosopher Flip Wilson  who observed 
that
> everyone is created equal only some people are more equal than 
others. 
>                                                                 N.
>

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