> Alex wrote in post 85038:
>
> You don't meditate to awaken! You awaken so you can meditate!

This was the phrase that stuck with me, if not verbatim, 
then in its general meaning. Thanks for the reference number 
needed to revisit it.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <jpgillam@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- jim_flanegin wrote:
> > >
> > > Still do TM...
> > 
> > How come, Jim? What's in it for you?
> > 
> > Not long ago someone -- I think Alex Stanley -- 
> > pointed out how great meditation must be in 
> > enlightenment. 
> 
> What I wrote about was my actual experience of meditation since the
> shift upon emerging from that "dark night of the soul":
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/85038
> 
> Was that shift "enlightenment"? I don't know, as the dogmas of
> enlightenment have never been of any interest to me. It's definitely
> Waking Down's "second birth awakening", but that is a beginning, not a
> final goal.
> 
> Alex
>






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