--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > Based on that clarity, we disagree completely. > > > > I believe that every sentient being, realized > > > > or not, enlightened or not, witnessing or not, > > > > has complete and total free will. They get to > > > > make their own decisions, and live with the > > > > repercussions of them. > > > > > > > > It's just what I believe, based on what I have > > > > learned over a lifetime and my own experiences > > > > along the Way. You seem to believe the opposite, > > > > based on the same things. That's cool. > > > > > > Okay. Let me just remind you of one thing: My 'belief' > > > is more of an experience than a belief. > > > > Mine, too. > > > > > Or to state it differentyl: Wouldn't I have had > > > this experience that I call recognition, than I > > > wouldn't have this belief. > > > > I've had the experience you are talking about, > > and I don't have that belief. > > How do you know it was the same experience? To be quite > honest with you (based on previous conversations) it > couldn't be exactly the same. Besides that, experiences > vary in strength and color even within the same person. > > > I just didn't > > take the experience in the same direction you > > did. > > Because you didn't have the 'same' You surely had some > degree of witnessing, but you didn't have the experience > that you are not in charge. Or did you have the experience > that you are not in charge, and then refused this > recognition intelectually later?
I began to have the experience of "not in charge" *simultaneously* with the experience of being very much in charge. No conflict, both coexisting not only peacably, but elegantly. Both, in my opinion, are nothing more than illusory points of view, a tiny subset of trillions of points of view. One can hold thousands of contradictory points of view in the mind at the same time, not just these two. It's really kinda fun; I recommend it. In my opinion, *all* of these points of view are not only valid, but coexistent at every moment, eternally. None of them is "higher" or more "evolved" or more "right" than another. All have exactly the same validity, which is none, because none of them even exist. Hey, you asked. :-) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
