--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Great 2 cents. Here's mine. We're talking about 
> > identification, right, in different states of
> > attention. Some prefer to identify with the 
> > POV of the state of attention in which they 
> > are not the doer, and value it higher than 
> > the POV from other states of attention. Some 
> > prefer identifying with the POV of the state 
> > of attention in which they are the doer. But 
> > either way, aren't they both still identifying 
> > with a particular state of attention, and a
> > the point of view that goes with that state
> > of attention?
> > 
> > Another possibility, as I see it, is to 
> > identify with none of them, to be comfortable
> > with whatever state of attention happens to
> > be predominant at the time. If it's an I-am-
> > the-doer kinda day, be comfortable with every-
> > thing you do. If it's more of a not-the-doer
> > kinda day, be comfortable with everything
> > you don't do. If both doer and nondoer happen 
> > to be running concurrently, be cool with that.
>
> Thanks. I agree with you that any attempt at trying 
> to determine or being hung up on POV takes away 
> from whatever experience is going on.

Yup. It's also *still identification*. In the
Buddhist paradigm, the goal is to identify with
*no* point of view or state of attention, but
to transcend them all and identify with *nothing*.

This actually becomes a practical exercise when
one starts "multitasking," and experiencing 
multiple states of attention at the same time.
It's yet another of the TM oversimplifications
that states of consciousness/states of attention
happen only one a time. One can experience *many*
of them, "running concurrently" as it were. When
that happens, the issue of "Which one do I choose
to identify with" becomes a real issue. The way
Buddhists choose to deal with it is to identify
with none of them, to treat all of them, and
identification itself, as illusory.








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