--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The interesting thing about this discussion is that > > > > according to MMY, he took this same path with Guru > > > > Dev of "attuning one's thinking to that of the teacher." > > > > > > > > If it's true that when you do this, you take on all > > > > the qualities of mind of the teacher, what does that > > > > say about the qualities of MMY's mind that are so > > > > often criticized here? > > > > > > Go back and read the discussion. > > > > No, I read the discussion already, thanks very much. > > > > > No one ever > > > suggested that it was an all-or-nothing process, > > > or that everyone is successful at modeling the > > > mind of their teacher. > > > > Perhaps you should read what *I* wrote. I never > > said anyone had ever suggested it was an all-or- > > nothing process or that everyone is successful > > at modeling the mind of their teacher. > > > > See that little squiggly thing at the end of what > > you quoted from my post? That's a question mark. > > > > The operative phrase in the question is, "What > > does that say about...?" > > > > But here's what you wrote (and snipped from your > > response): > > > >> "So IMO it's a good idea, from time to time, to take > >> a few steps back and really *examine* the mind that > >> you're trying to attune yourself to. Do you really > >> *want* all that you see there? Because you're going > >> to get it *all* as a result of the mind-modeling, > >> not just the parts you want." > > > > So, in fact, you not only suggested, you said > > explicitly that it was an "all-or-nothing" process. > > > > No wonder you carefully snipped the quote. > > > > Your *corrections* to your original statement in > > this reply are perfectly reasonable; they're > > exactly what I was attempting to elicit: It's not > > quite so cut-and-dried as you initially said. > > > > Why couldn't you just make those corrections, > > without prefacing them with the claim that I > > hadn't read what you wrote? > > > > I know that all I meant > > > to suggest is that it's something that one works > > > at over a long period of time -- years, or decades. > > > And not everyone is successful at doing it. > > > > > > I would suggest that Maharishi wasn't particularly > > > successful at doing it, since one of his first > > > actions after Guru Dev's death was to not obey > > > what he'd told him to do (that is, go into seclusion, > > > and not teach). > > > > > > In addition, the effects of mind-modeling only "last" > > > so long. After almost fifty years, I suspect that > > > Maharishi has had an opportunity to pick up a few > > > kinks of his own. :-) > > Judy, by now I suspect that almost everyone here > has figured out that the *only* reason you try to > get involved in discussions with me is to use them > as part of your ongoing crusade to put me down, > or to "win" the discussion in your mind, and/or > suggest that nothing I say is to be trusted.
No, see, if you had just responded to the question, without trying to put *me* down for having asked it, that would have been the end of it. As I said, it was a perfectly reasonable response. But you couldn't just do that; you had to attack. I suspect almost everyone here has figured that out. > I hope that this quest brings you great pleasure. > Doing this with Vaj and myself and sometimes Paul > seems to be one of the only things in your life > that *does* bring you pleasure If you only knew, Barry. How *extremely* odd that you believe you know everything that goes on in my life on the basis of my posts. , so in the interest > of furthering joy in the universe I would not > interfere with it. > > On the other hand, there is nothing that says I > have to participate in it, so carry on all by > yourself. :-) > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
