--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <wayback71@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > on 2/28/06 5:52 PM, MDixon6569@ at MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/28/06 11:39:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >> Because sometimes I seriously wonder, and he has NEVER said > so to my > > > >> knowledge! He seems more like a bitter old man these days and > > > >> sometimes the shortest distance between two points is a > straight line. > > > >> Also his pejorative comments about people and forms of > governments is > > > >> disturbing and leads me to believe he is not established in > Being???? > > > >> > > > >> I am grateful to him for TM, and if he isn't enlightened that > wouldn't > > > >> mean TM doesn't work (but it might make you wonder)! Only > Bevan and > > > >> others say he is operating from Aham-brahmasmi but we don't > know if > > > >> that is true! BillyG > > > > Billy, I'm kind of like you. I wonder, sometimes like you, for > the exact same > > > > reasons. But then I also often think he is enlightened but has > lost his mind > > > > in his old age. Just as the body can go in old age with the > enlightened , why > > > > not the mind as well? Maybe sometime down the road, somebody > real close to M > > > > that we have no reason not to trust, can fill us in on what has > happened over > > > > the past few years. > > Rick Archer wrote: > > > I think that if your private life is way out of whack with your > public > > > persona, it creates a strain, cultures paranoia and controlling, > repressive > > > tendencies, etc., that can wear on your sanity over the years. wayback71 wrote: > > > > > One thing I have wondered about lately - having just viewd lots of > > old tapes of MMY - is where did he get all this knowledge of the > > Vedas and the understanding of the relationships between the > > sounds, the from infinity to a point stuff? Is this just common > > knowledge in India? did MMY pick it up by talking wtih some wise > > pundits? Is all the Vedic Science info really not that profound, > > but sounds that way to Westerners? My hunch is that it is a > > profound understanding, just as I think MMY's descriptions of > > states of consciousness etc is simple and also profound -= a real > > contribution to the world. If he is not Enlightened, where did he > > get this stuff? Could he have picked it up from Guru Dev in > > the 9 years as a disciple? Is he cognizing all this? LIfting > > ideas from others? Anyone have any insight into this? jstein wrote: > Vaj's entirely predictable dump notwithstanding, no > matter where MMY got the information--and especially > if he got it piecemeal, as Vaj claims--what's so > remarkable to me is the way he put it together into > a coherent, consistent system.
Yes, MMY is an absolute genius in some of his lectures - their structure, humor and consistency with all the other information he has presented. > Nor would it have been just a matter of stitching it > together like a patchwork, because it all had to make > sense in the context of the TM technique. And claims > that TM isn't unique are belied by its implications, > as MMY teaches them, for all the *other* various > principles, many of which you just don't find anywhere > else. MMY himself says he has not invented any of the info, just revived it it's more pure form (and then stuck his own name on it, of course). > If all he taught were traditional understandings, he > wouldn't arouse so much hostility from traditional > teachers. I don't want to sound like a TB caught up in rationalizing all sorts of craziness, but it did occur to me while watching old tapes that the whole TMO" and MMY thing is an exercise in stretching awareness to encompass extremes/opposites. MMY has said that the expansion of awareness to encompass silence and dynamism, infinity and a point, relaitve and absoloute etc etc etc is necessary. And with the TMO, if you choose to stay involved or even wishful and semi attached, you end up trying to stretch your awareness around thievery and liesat one extreme to powerful understanding and some great experiences at the other. Like a huge exercise in entertaining extremes at the same moment in time. So, doubters are not sinners, they are dong exactly what they must. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
