--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > so who regularly disses who for what claim of experience or non- > > experience? My own take on people who claim to be in full-blown > > brahman consciousness is that MMY has, from what Ihave heard, said > > that someone who is fully in Unity (and brahman con. transcends > > Unity, I hear) can manifest any ole siddhi he chooses to. That being > > the case, anyone who claims Brahman Consciousness should have had at > > least one full-blown experience of floating for 5-30 mintues while > > practicing the Yogic FLying technique since, even if the TM- Sidhis > > techniques are entirely bogus, mere intent is all that is required > > for someone in Unity to perform a siddhi. > > Someday you should learn to take what "Maharishisez" with > the necessary shaker of salt. AFAIK, he is pretty much > *alone* in the spiritual world at suggesting this "criterion" > for full enlightenment. *History* certainly doesn't agree > with him; it is full of people who have been regarded as > fully enlightened, and who have *never* exhibited any of > the siddhis. > > It's an apples and oranges thang, but even more so. The > siddhis have absolutely nothing to do with enlightenment. > The apples come from Venus and enlightenment comes from > Mars. :-) Many non-enlightened people can perform the > siddhis and many enlightened people cannot. The *only* > reason Maharishi tried to suggest a link between the > two is that he was trying to SELL the siddhis as a > pathway to enlightenment.
Gee, Barry, you seem to have inadvertently deleted what Lawson was responding to from your post. Let me help you out and restore it: > Gotta agree. And it ain't just here...it's a fairly > universal trend in spiritual groups. Those who say > that they have experienced the goal that is shared > by pretty much the entire group (for example, > enlightenment) are regularly dissed by those in > the group who have not had such an experience. > One would think they'd be happy that someone is > actually getting what they paid for, but the > reality is sadly often the opposite. Now read what Lawson wrote again, *in response to what you wrote*, and see if you can figure out why your comment here is a complete non sequitur. Hint: Look closely at the first sentence of Lawson's response. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
