--- In [email protected], "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim Flanegin: > > 1. determination of awakening, or not, of another is something > > sensed on a feeling level. Proclamations do no good, unless the > > person is walking the walk so to speak. Unfortunately it seems that > > the ones best able to see another's awakening are those who are > > awake themselves... > > Vaj writes: > I don't know if I would describe it necessarily that way, but as just > observing what's there: things arise, hang round and then subside. > Later, I could make brief observations--maybe compare/contrast: what > was there, what wasn't. what was missing, etc. > > Tom T: > Vaj seems to dismiss Jim obvious point. So lets summarize that point. > It takes one to know one. If vaj can't get what he was missing then he > obviously isn't one. If a group chooses to use a language that they as > a group have spent 30+ years becoming familiar with that is the choice > that group makes to make trying to say what can not be said at least > more coherent. The freshness is always in the individuals way of > saying it uniquely in there own words. If Vaj wasn't able to get that > or hear that then he again is making it clear he is not one who knows > and could not know one if it bit him in the *ss. Tom >
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