--- In [email protected], "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At the end of my TTC, in June, 1971, I vaguely remember Jerry 
Jarvis
> dictating sometning to us in which we promised to work for the
> Students International Meditation Society (SIMS), International
> Meditation Society (IMS) and Spiritual Regeneration Movement 
(SRM). I
> don't thihk Jerry liked having to add SRM in!
> 
> Peter's point about the movement NOT keeping it's promises is a 
MAJOR
> point in many people's minds. In fact, in my opinion, it's the 
primary
> reason so many of us have had to bail out in various ways at 
various
> times.
> 
> Here are Some of the major promises I can recall being made and the
> movement squelching on. Anyone who can think of others please post 
them.
> 
> 1) Initiators were asked to *loan* the movement their ATR 
resources to
> go out on peace projects to Nicaragua and Iraq (others please 
chime in
> here). We were PROMISED we would get it all back. For some people 
who
> had accumulated a couple of thousand dollars of ATR credit this 
was a
> massive loss.
> 
> 2) In 1982, in order to induce people to move to Fairfield, 
Maharishi,
> with his own mouth, promised all those who would be good enough to
> pack up their lives, lock stock and barrell, and move to Fairfield 
to
> help establish a group of 1600 would have *wealth and wisdom* 
squared. 
> I know for myself, and many hundreds of others who ended up, a mere
> few years later living in abject poverty, doing the shittiest of 
jobs
> in sub-zero weather, living in sh*Tholes, and eventually having to
> leave and get a life, this promise never occurred.
> 
> 3) People, self-included, who were on Vedic Atoms, were sent to go 
to
> the giant Vedic Science course in India. Many hundreds of people 
got
> really sick and ended up having to leave. I left after 9 weeks. I 
was
> told I had to pay the movement back $3000 or I would never be 
allowed
> on a course again. Who got called and forced into this situation 
was
> totally arbitrary. 
> 
> 4) I know people, actual real people, who paid the $3000 and then a
> year later were told they had to pay back $3000. When they told the
> movement that they already had, they were told there was no record 
of
> it and some people actually paid it back twice. I was one of the
> people who actually paid the money, I got one of these calls, and
> fortunately (and amazingly) I had the receipt for the money order.
> I wish now I'd never paid it back.
> 
> 5) In the beginning of 1988, Maharishi set up a Vedic Health
> Practitioner Training course in Seelsiberg, Switzerland. In a
> conference call with him, that I and many many others heard, he
> PROMISED that all those people who went on that course would gain 
both
> the knowledge AND ability to diagnose and treat people the 
ayurvedic
> way and when we got back, just six weeks later, we would be 
trained to
> earn a good living. All that happened, as far as I can tell, is we
> spent another $4000, certainly the PROMISE was not fulfilled.






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>  
> 
> 
>  --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "bmorry2000" <bmorry2000@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > we definitely signed something in 1977 when I became a teacher 
> > > agreeing only to teach within the movement.  but, never got a 
copy 
> > > for our own reference.....
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > A reminder of a promise made. POssibly not legally binding, but 
> > should give one pause, IMHO, before setting out as an 
independent 
> > teacher.
> > 
> > This has nothing to do with trademarks, as far as I know.
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > In a message dated 3/6/06 10:06:46 A.M. Central
> > > > > Standard Time,  
> > > > > fairfieldlife@ writes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > on  3/5/06 11:38 PM, Marek Reavis at
> > > > > reavismarek@ wrote:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > I was made a teacher in Fiuggi in June of 1972. 
> > > > > I'm pretty sure  I
> > > > > > remember Jerry talking to us at some point about
> > > > > our obligations  to
> > > > > > the teaching and Maharishi in a somewhat
> > > > > legal-sounding way but I  know
> > > > > > that we never signed any document.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was made a teacher in  Estes Park, December, 1970,
> > > > > and we signed one.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was made an initiator also in June 1972 in Fiuggi
> > > > > and we  never signed 
> > > > > anything. We were read a long "vow", so to speak, by
> > > > > Jerry, to  agree to teach TM 
> > > > > only within the confines of the TM movement as I
> > > > > recall. I  don't remember if 
> > > > > the vow was too Maharishi or to the laws of Nature
> > > > > or just  what. I had been 
> > > > > rounding for 9 months and didn't have an attorney to
> > > > > explain to  me what I was 
> > > > > verbally agreeing to and never saw it in  writing.
> > > > 
> > > > I know it contained a phrase to the effect of " on the
> > > > altar of Guru Dev..." I was Seelisberg, 1973 having
> > > > started out in LaAntilla, then Punta Umbria.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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