--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick > Gillam" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> somebody wrote: > > >> > > > > Did you do TM before you tried > > > > the other > > > > techniques? If yes, might this have helped > your > > > > results? > > > > > > gullible fool: > > > > > > Yes, I did TM for twenty years before I got > involved > > > with any other techniques. ... > > > > > > I'm sure it helped my results, but there are > students > > > in their twenties who are reaching basic > awakening > > > through VortexHealing, with maybe doing nothing > prior > > > to VortexHealing than being an Amma devotee for > a few > > > years. For me, it's been 32 years of spiritual > work. > > > Maybe I should have incarnated in 1980 instead > of in > > > 1954. :) > > > > The premise of TM is that it enriches all areas of > life > > because it "enlivens" the substrate of life, pure > > consciousness. We don't notice consciousness is > > missing because it's flat and featureless. > Maharishi > > said this is the one experience that's missing; > add > > it, and you'll benefit. And that's pretty much > what > > most of us have experienced. > > > > Peter Sutphen has posited that most TMers are > > saturated with that flat awareness to the point > > that they're ripe to bursting if given a practice > > that "pulls it out," so to speak. The sidhis do > > that to an extent, but many seem to profit from > > something else. > > > > If this premise is true, it would make sense that > > anything we do after doing TM would bring > > noticeable results. Those results might make > > TM look bad, but remember that TM brings > > flatness, not flash. > > > > I've mentioned here before about how a TM > > teacher at the Iowa City Center back in the > > day, Susan Isaacs, once commented about > > how flat everything is. There was a reason > > for that. > > > > As for non-TMers getting great results from > > Vortex Healing, or whatever: if the notion of > > collective consciousness is valid, and collective > > consciousness is on the rise as even non-TMers > > say it is, people who pursue spiritual and self- > > development practices today will get better > results > > than those of us who learned back in the day. > > > > I was always impressed by and envious of people > > who'd learn TM from me in the '80s and early '90s, > > > the last times I taught, because their experiences > > > were so textbook clear. Those people really > > demonstrated to me the validity of collective > > consciousness theories. > > > > In summary, I think it's great that all these > practices > > other than TM are generating such great results > for > > people. I'd like to get me some of those myself. > But > > I don't consider those results to negate the value > of > > TM. On the contrary, for the reasons above, those > > great results could be construed as validating > > Maharishi's premise that everything gets better > with > > TM, and that his programs contribute to a rise in > > collective consciousness. > > > > > I haven't practised other mental techniques but I do > go to Iyengar > Yoga classes. I get such incredible results that > when in class I > assume that all the other students are "flying high" > as I am. But > on questioning them I find that, yes, they are > getting relaxation, > etc. but, no, not to the degree I get. > > I am convinced that it is the TM that supplements > and enhances my > hatha yoga experience. I experience it as an > excellerant (sic?) > that makes the yoga practise 200% more effective. > > TM is VERY compatible with other religious and > spiritual practises > and, indeed, can be viewed as the fulfillment of > them or, say, > their "missing link". Yes. 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