--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Having now read most of MDG's seemingly endless
> rap, it strikes me that, for someone who
> claims to be functioning from the level of Self,
> there is a great deal of clinging there to the
> notion of *path*. He claims to have realized the
> Self, but still talks in terms of the things that
> "keep" someone from the goal of realizing the Self,
> in his case the ego or individual self. These
> obstacles to the path are consistently portrayed
> as BAD, "thieves," the things that keep us from
> realization.
> 
> It makes me wonder if realization ever occurred for
> him. My first subjective experience of realization
> was the same as every subsequent experience of it
> in that the first thing I noticed was that "This
> is nothing new. This has *always* been. There has
> never been a time when this experience of enlight-
> enment was not present. I just didn't realize it
> was present, that's all." The *same* subjective 
> experience has been echoed by many people here.

I seldom worry about whether "realization" is "new" or not until the 
state starts to fade away and I start induling in intellectual 
analysis in a futile attempt to hold onto it.



> 
> So it does make one wonder how "realized" MDG's
> "realization" really is. Sounds to me like he's
> still talking theory, not experience. And, 
> judging from his sig at the end of the rant,
> selling it.
> 
> Just my two centimes. Drive through...  :-)
>







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