--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hyperbolicgeometry" > > <hyperbolicgeometry@> wrote: > > > > > > ---Effortless or not (nothing in the world is "absolutely" > > > effortless btw); the key point is Transcendental awareness. > > > If it (pure Consciousness, Self-awareness), occurs for you > > > regardless of the amount of effort, excellent. > > > > Yup. This whole tempest in a teapot is about a few > > TMers feeling panicky because they're realizing that > > the simplistic portrayal of TM as 'effortless' isn't > > quite true. > > But an approximation. And as such not bad.
A limit, in the mathematical sense, not merely an approximation. MMY refers to TM as "least effort in the direction of less effort." > > > They're jumping on the issue of 'effortlessness' > > and beating it deader than a dead horse so that > > they can avoid thinking about what *other* things > > that were told to them might not be true. > > It always needs two. E.g. one to put up a smokescreen of the 'truely' > effortless, non-prop. > > > In other words, it's an exercise in attachment... > > ... and commitment, bhakti. > And a difference in understanding, or at least, semantics. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/