--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hyperbolicgeometry" 
> > <hyperbolicgeometry@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ---Effortless or not (nothing in the world is "absolutely" 
> > > effortless btw); the key point is Transcendental awareness. 
> > > If it (pure Consciousness, Self-awareness), occurs for you 
> > > regardless of the amount of effort, excellent.
> > 
> > Yup. This whole tempest in a teapot is about a few
> > TMers feeling panicky because they're realizing that
> > the simplistic portrayal of TM as 'effortless' isn't
> > quite true.
> 
> But an approximation. And as such not bad.

A limit, in the mathematical sense, not merely an approximation. MMY 
refers to TM as "least effort in the direction of less effort."

> 
> > They're jumping on the issue of 'effortlessness'
> > and beating it deader than a dead horse so that
> > they can avoid thinking about what *other* things
> > that were told to them might not be true.
> 
> It always needs two. E.g. one to put up a smokescreen of 
the 'truely'
> effortless, non-prop.
> 
> > In other words, it's an exercise in attachment...
> 
> ... and commitment, bhakti.
>

And a difference in understanding, or at least, semantics.






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