--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
 
> Just for the record, Michael has done his share of
> "picking on" in the past--big-time, in fact.  I can't
> recall whether you were ever on TMNews or TMControversy,
> but he used to go ballistic on occasion on those forums
> when someone disagreed with him and blast them to
> kingdom come.

I've been around at TMNews, thats where we actually met first,Judy.
And I had some exchange with Michael there. He wasn't getting
ballistic at that point, but was more or less like he is now. (Maybe I
was getting a bit ballistic at that time, eg with Joe Kollet)

> > But there is no way to enforce honesty in a forum, except if it
> > moderated, and that nobody really wants.
> 
> Well, depending on what you mean by "enforce."
> General, strongly expressed disapproval from the
> participants in a forum can be a powerful incentive
> to clean up one's act.

It certainly is.

<snip>

> Actually I'm far more interested in Barry being
> represented correctly to others.  You know that I
> call Barry on his lack of honesty with regard to other
> participants (yourself included) and to nonpersonal
> topics, not just with regard to what he says about me.

And I surely have appreciated.

<snip>

> It isn't a matter of maturity, it's a matter of keeping
> track.  In many cases you forget what someone actually
> said or did, so when Barry lies about it, you're not
> necessarily going to spot the lies.

Generally I think it's a matter of relation. What is the relation of
the amount of effort and time you put in to point out somebodies
shortcomings to the actual gain? In this case I think its okay, to
make some self-defense for example, or point out dishonesty, but how
far would you go on about it? For me there is simply very often no
time to do it.

> There's also an underlying sense--which may or may
> not be accurate but does have some influence on how
> people see things--that if one doesn't rebut something
> someone else has said, it's because one doesn't *have*
> a rebuttal, that silence constitutes acquiescence, and
> that what the person has said must be accurate.

I disagree very strongly here. Silence simply means silence, no
agreement. How would you ever break the vicious circle of everybody
wanting to have the last word? I reserve for myself the right to step
out of an argument at any time without further comment, and expect
that anbody else may do the same. Simply sometimes I have no time, I
am not always online, I can't attend to threats at my working time, or
if , only in a very limited way. So I'm not a slave to this. If
somebody thinks I have nothing to say on this, its okay.
 
<snip>

> The only "reputation" I'm interested in for myself is
> that of honesty, Michael.  I don't care whether people
> here like me or consider me a "good person," as long
> as they recognize that I'm an honest person.

AFAIU they do.

> That's true, but it's not that easy to dig posts out
> of the archive on Yahoo.  That alternate archive site
> is a lot better, but it's a pain to have to switch back
> and forth from Yahoo to that site.  With Google Groups,
> consulting the archives is vastly more efficient than
> with Yahoo Groups, and you can see the text of recent
> posts in a thread all on one page.  

The Yahoo interface is simply a pain in the ass.

<snip>

> I know you do, Michael, and I thank you for your concern.
> I just don't happen to agree with many of your points.
> 
> Different strokes for different folks and all that...

Sure :-)






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