on 3/20/06 4:00 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>> Freeze time at just the moment before Maharishi came into the lives of
>>> the Beatles and extrapolate from there: where would they and their
>>> music have been without the creative influence MMY had on them?
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band
>> 
>> Sgt. Pepper came out before the Beatles met Maharishi. It is widely
> regarded
>> as the greatest rock album ever. Way better than the White Album,
> IMO. If
>> they had done nothing after Sgt. Pepper, they would still be
> remembered as
>> the greatest rock band ever.
> 
> Not to take anything away from Sgt. Pepper. It was for a long time the
> most *successfull* album, if it was the best ever is a matter of taste
> of course. You seem to forget that right after Sgt Pepper, Magical
> Mystery Tour came out, which was a total flop, and was regarded as one
> of their worst albums, *before* they went to India with MMY. Also, Sgt
> Pepper success and quality was partely due to the involvement of the
> London Symphoney Orchester, the orchestration for which was almost
> exclusively written by George Martin.The effort that was put into the
> album was immense.

Which songs were they involved with? I can't think of any other than "A Day
in the Life"

>After that, and after the failure of Magical
> Mystery Tour. the Beatles wanted to go back to a more basic style,
> which was done in the white Album. But the white album was a double
> album and contained many more songs, many of them where very simple,
> some just using acoustic guitar and voice, like 'Blackbird' According
> to George Martin the material should have been edited to just one
> album, working more on a selection of the better songs. So clearly,
> the problem was not a lack of creativity and song material. In fact
> the Beatles had written so much material in Rishikesh, that it still
> was used for two more albums, Let it Be and Abbey Road. Some of the
> compositions were only released after the Beatles had split, like
> 'Jealous Guy' one of the most beautiful balads of John next to
> imagine. 'Across the Universe' was also written in Rishikesh. So all
> in all, the period of Rishikesh itself, and after it was extremely
> creative, 'Hey jude' was just written right after the Indian visit by
> Paul and is regarded as one of the Beatles biggest success. Just the
> White Album was badly edited and contained too many songs.

I agree with your observations. I was just responding to Peter's assertion
that the Beatles would have been nothing without Maharishi's influence. I
think one could argue the opposite: that none of us would have heard of
Maharishi, wouldn't have learned TM, and wouldn't have been having this
discussion because this forum wouldn't have existed without the Beatles'
influence.




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