--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On TTC in Mallorca, Jan-June 1971, Brahmarishi Devarat and his son > (who looked like Tonto from the Lone Ranger) were often at meetings > and we would ask Devarat question after question and Maharishi was our > interpreter. My appeared to be having great fun in this job, he often > found Devarat's answers both funny and illuminating. > > Someone asked him this question-if there is anything we can say to > someone who is dying. As near as I can recall, he told us to say, in > the person's ear, *wok, wok, wok* I believe it is actually spelled > vak and I also think I remember it is translated as *speech* or > *sound* I cannot remember the reason for saying this. > > I know for me, having been in the presence of several people/pets at > the moment they made this transition out of life, I have done various > things, depending on what was in my heart/mind to do at this time. > Sometimes it was whispering the mantras I know (as a TM teacher, and > whether or not the person was a TM meditator), sometimes/in addition > it was the puja, or om namah shivaya. > > I would suggest to do something very personal and very meaningful to > you at that time. I mean, who really knows. Does anyone think that you > can somehow help a person circumvent their personal karma just by > saying the right thing at their moment of death? >
***************** The karma has a person has coming is ordinarily going to get to them, all the good and bad things, but funnily enough, it is the very last thought that a person has that determines his next birth, as told in many stories in the Vedic literature. So it doesn't make a great deal of difference if somebody gets eaten by a tiger, and his last thought is totally focused on that beast, causing one to be born as a tiger, because this, like any life, is only a temporary thing. But there is another possibility addressed in the Vedic literature, namely, that one can gain liberation by means of the last thought (like a thought of complete identification with Krishna or Vishnu), but this would likely only happen if a person was dedicated to seeking enlightenment in his lifetime already, and that last thought was a natural step -- although there are also stories of people who, facing death, completely abandoned their lifelong ignorance and gained liberation in a short period before death. Our notions of what is fair fall apart when you realize that it's everybody's birthright to enjoy liberation, regardless of what one has done or not done, it's just a matter of wiping a little mud off, and an intense last thought can do that -- although it's not the way to bet, like they say; it's better to live a life oriented toward expansion of awareness rather than wait till the last minute, especially since there may be no control over one's circumstances at the time of death. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/