--- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd"
> <marwincornyarmand@> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > "You know you've become a cultist when you spend 
> > > more time defending what you believe than you do
> > > practicing it."
> > 
> > That's true. The hardest TB' I know, is smoking 50 sigarettes 
> > a day, 
> > drinking alkohol almost every day and is hardly meditating, 
> > talking about MMY as he is next to God, and as a TB, he knows 
> > the truth - 
> > and the rest of us do not understand a thing.
> > Ingegerd 
> 
> I've always noted an inverse relationship between depth of 
> experience and degree of intellectual fundamentalism - 
> regardless of the particular group.

Exactly!!!

In *every* group, it's the ones who feel that
they have "paid their dues" the longest without
ever having had any significant experiences who
become the fanatics. In my opinion, what happens
is that they attempt to channel the doubt that
they feel because of their lack of experience
into something more "appropriate," like becoming
a proslytute for the organization, or even join-
ing its version of the Inquisition, and coming
down on others in the group who are honest 
enough to express *their* doubts *as* doubts.

It's just the weirdest thing in the world, but
you see it in almost *every* spiritual group.
It's so common that you can almost count on it.
Scratch a spiritual fanatic and nine times out
of ten what you'll find under the surface is
someone who has had very little of the spiritual
experience he or she is proslyetizing.

Fascinatingly, the inverse is also true in my
experience.  Those who have had actual spiritual
experiences with higher states of consciousness
tend to become *less* prone to proselytizing
and claiming that their organization/technique/
tradition is "the only" or "the best."







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