--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the > mess > > > > > that every sector of the country is in? > > > > > > > > Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list > > > > of people who argue about politics because they have > > > > no spiritual experiences to report. > > > > > > Ha Ha! Barry or you can put me on any list you want. From my > > > previous perspective where I would notice and observe the > contrast > > > of spiritual experiences, I would say I am constantly having > > > spiritual experiences these days. Most notably in my dreams, > which > > > have become very clear. I'll have a desire when I am awake, then > > act > > > it out in my dream, and then it goes away when I am awake again. > > > Also can't hold onto desires like I used to. Its just different. > > > Lost my fear of death and dying too. Don't get me wrong- I am > very > > > happy being alive in this body and would like to continue this > for > > > awhile, but realize that death (such a strange word, eh?) isn't > > > really any different than this, here. Also don't notice much > > > difference between deep transcendence and right now. No big deal- > > > > its just that I used to crave a greater contrast in meditation > and > > > notice it. Now I don't. What's up with that? > > > > (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so > > Barry won't put him on the list) > > No need. You see, Jim's never used that old > tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that > Judy uses when it comes to "experiences." > > You know the one. Someone asks, "Have you > personally had experiences of enlightenment?" > > And the TM TB says, "We never discucss our > experiences," with a big nudge, nudge, wink, > wink, know what I mean, know what I mean? :-)
I certainly heard the "we never discuss our experiences" from TM TBers but I never, ever got the impression that there was an attitude of "big nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean, know what I mean" accompanying it. Be that as it may, if anyone wants a slew of wonderful experiences to read, then pick up pretty much any book by Swami Muktananda because he has no qualms about discussing his experiences which he does extensively in most of his books. I recommend "Play of Consciousness" as a starter... > > Obviously this trick worked for Judy when other > TM teachers did it to her, so she's hoping it'll > work when she does it here (despite her own > words to the contrary that remain on the record). > > Jim has a somewhat more grownup approach to > spiritual experience. When the subject comes > up, he just describes his. He doesn't categorize > them, he doesn't make a big deal about them, and > he doesn't dwell on them. He just deals with the > question -- honestly -- and moves on. It's a role > model that someone who spends as much time posturing > as an "honest" person as Judy does might want to > pay more attention to. :-) > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
