--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Apr 8, 2006, at 9:09 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > <shempmcgurk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The man who takes every opportunity to hit the TMO > > > > for weird and crazy things and here you are defending > > > > probably one of the weirdest cults of them all: one > > > > that chooses its leader based on some sort of > > > > fairy tale about reincarnation! > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahahaha. > > Shemp, did you have something strange to eat before you wrote this? This is an odd > reaction to the Dalai Lama and to a whole tradition that also uses the Vedas. Vedic > traditions sound pretty wild, too, to most people - things like performing fire cermonies > so that that energies coming from planets to your very own physiology will be deflected or > enhanced.
I don't particularly like any form of voodoo, tibetan or hindi. > > > > The issue, Shemp, is that you're laughing at a > > > group of people who have more knowledge than you > > > do about a certain subject -- death, dying, and > > > reincarnation. And you're laughing at them and > > > trying to put them down, when what a *smart* seeker > > > would be doing is trying to figure out what they > > > know, and whether it might be useful. > > > > snip > > > > > I guess my point is that when it comes to the process > > > of death, dying, and rebirth, you are *not* likely > > > to find out anything of worth by studying with anyone > > > from an Indian/Hindu background. Whereas, if that is > > > one your interests, you *are* likely to find out a > > > little of how it all works by studying with a tradition > > > that has delved into this subject for thousands of > > > years, with some success. That is, Tibetan Buddhists. > > > > > > > > They've got a clue, in my opinion. In my opinion, NO > > > ONE I've *ever* encountered from an Indian/Hindu-based > > > tradition does. They are basically *clueless* as to > > > what happens when they die, and often as fearful of > > > dying as the "man on the street." > > And to be even more in your face, death is > going to > > > happen -- to YOU -- far sooner than you want it to. > > > You personally are going to DIE within twenty years, > > > and probably closer to ten. You're going to be lying > > > on your deathbed, still knowing as little about what > > > lies in front of you when your body breathes its last > > > breath as you do today. You'll be about to dive into > > > an experience that is as much a mystery for you as it > > > was the day you were born. Whereas a lot of people who > > > have actually studied with the tradition you like to > > > make fun of (Tibetan Buddhism) will just be getting > > > ready to perform a series of meditational exercises > > > that they've been preparing for their whole lives. > > Vaj wrote: > > Another thing Shemp might want to consider is that the Tibetan > > diaspora was actually a blessing for this planet, rather than a > > curse. But that would entail seeing the big picture. > > > > Nice point about the Tibetan diaspora! > > Re death and dying, I have found Yogananda's books of comfort. I just started his Gita > translation/commentary and it seems packed with all sorts of good information. > Personally, I would find it comforting to have some trusty steps to perform as death nears. > But, I also trust that the process will take care of itself, to a large extent. All this > meditating and yoga for all these years, trying to live a "good" life while having some fun, > caring for family. I am counting on a compassionate universe to include me and frankly > everyone in the normal flow of transition. I don't think we all have to feel responsible for > learing how to manage each stage of life. The analogy that comes to mind is the fundy > Christian idea that ONLY thru belief in Jesus can a person be saved. But what about those > who never heard of Jesus? Same with death. Such a fundamental experience cannot > possibly REQUIRE special training available in one part of the world. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
