--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:59 AM, t3rinity wrote:
> 
> > From what I know, and what I have seen
> > in the Satsang movement, this is exactly what is being done 
there: The
> > truth of non-duality is being pointed out and explained in terms 
of
> > his own everyday experience, it is being discussed, and quite 
often
> > people are guided towards self-inquiry ('who am I'.)
> 
> 
> Yes this is what is happening in some cases IMO. Pointing out.  
> However at the same time after some are "introduced" they go on  
> rather quickly to claim Buddhahood, Unity Consciousness (brahma- 
> chetana), Cosmic Consciousness (turiyatita) or in the case of TMO  
> people, they go on to claim what "Maharishi said". In every case I 
am  
> aware of, none of these people would fit the definition of those  
> states or the experience. There's a strong element of grandiosity 
in  
> it all.
> 
> It's interesting, I was reading some prophecies from the 8th 
century  
> regarding when non-dual teaching would start coming to the cities 
of  
> the west and they describe this very phenomenon and what will 
happen  
> very precisely. One of the comments is 'if it were so easy to 
reach  
> perfect Buddhahood, the ocean of samsara would already have been  
> drained long ago.'
> 
> "Masters of old lashed out at those who claimed to be
> enlightened yet refused to be tested, calling them
> "earthworms living in the slime of self-validated
> satori"."
> -Philip Kapleau Roshi
> 
> How many were tested by their teachers? would be my
> question--but I already know the answer.
>
No one ever said it was easy, but it is achievable. It is a mistake 
to assume it is easy. It is also a mistake to assume it is not 
achievable. 






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