--- In [email protected], "amarnath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "amarnath" <anatol_zinc@> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > Go figure.  The things some people will believe if
> > > > they tell them to themselves long enough...
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > my two cents is that "we believe what we want to believe" 
> > 
> > I agree completely. And 'what we want to believe'
> > does not have to have any basis in reality; all
> > that matters is that we want to believe in it.
> > ...
> > ...(some example)...  In this case, I would sug-
> > gest that the result is not so good.
> > ...
> > You interpret that "high"
> > as "darshan."  But it may be nothing more (or less)
> > than resonance.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> 
> from my physics background, one could say everything is either a 
> resonance or a non-resonance. and although i saw mmy very few 
> times 
> in the long past, there was always a strong resonance of LOVE ~ I 
> purposly stared at his eyes ~ which is one way to get darshan. 
> 
> I loved MMY very much. now, i would not care to be in his 
> presence, 
> but still respect and love him for what he did in the past 
> especially for me.
> 
> "believing what we want to believe" is not a guarantee of good 
> results; obviously it depends on our "wise" choices 
> 
> but believing that "we believe what we want to believe" and that 
> it 
> does not have to be based on "facts"( if there are any such things 
> isn't it all illusion ) helps one to stay away from dogma and to 
> be 
> ready to surrender all beliefs at the time of AWAKENING !
> also, it helps me from wasting a lot of time bickering over things.
> 
> concerning Amma, it's easy for me to believe almost everything she 
> says because it reminds me of my experiences of the TRUTH of LOVE 
> and the FALSNESS of EGO ~ some of these experiences with mmy ~
> 
> namaste,
> amarnath
> 
> PS ~ examples of some beliefs( functional in the beginning ) which 
> have become fixated upon as absolutes  :
> 1) "mood-making" ~ a tm freind of mine hanging in there for dear 
> life always uses this to discount anything and everything that 
> doesn't fit in with his way of thinking
> 2) "effortlessness" is really besides the point when one considers 
> the many valid approaches to spiritual practices; but it helped 
> a lot for many of us to start TM
> 3) "seven states" ~ supposedly even MMY admitted that this was 
> meant to be just a "temporary belief" 
> 
> "Beliefs and Facts are not THE REALITY !" is one of my temporary
> and hopefully functional beliefs.

I have nothing to say in response to all of this
except welcome. What a refreshing new voice and
point of view!








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