--- In [email protected], anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[...]
> I'm sorry, but ANY MUM study is suspect due to this "exectations"
> pehenomenon. It doesn't mean David OJ, Skip A, Arick A, or Fred T.. or
> whoever  are evil or ill-intentioned, but they live and work and
> breath in a HIGH expectations environment. The epectations effect is
> real. I personally don't trust a shred of their resseach. Show me some
> good old time TOTAL independent research. By people not connected the
> TMO, who are not new-agey and have no great love of meditation and
> things mystical. I want to see research by Dennis Hopper -- with a 
Phd.
>

As I said, the most recent TM research is done by teams of TMing and 
non-TMing researchers, and even, gasp, by non-TMing researchers all by 
themselves.

One study was done by people with different agendas: mindfulness, TM, 
and Benson's relaxation response, and the second  came out ahead in all 
areas, while the first was first in only one or two. The third was 
often worse than the controls.





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