--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Did anyone else notice the relevance to the current issues of  
> immigration in the US (and elsewhere)?
> 
> What caste-roles do illegal Mexican immigrants primarily fulfill?
> 
> In a materialistic and hedonistic society do we abandon certain caste- 
> functions because of attachment to and worship of materialism and  
> hedonism? Do the wealthiest classes in America constitute a faux- 
> Brahman caste?

It appears to me that an inherent presmption in a number of posts is
that sudras are a low and undesirable class, and to be a Brahman is
the best, and the desire and goal of all should be to rise above (to a
higher) their current caste. I thnk that is a limited, warped and even
upside down view.

First, no need to use the social and occupational classes of ancient
india. Not much call for charriot spoke makers, or arrow makers in 
current society. In the modern west we have various clusters of
occupations-- and often a social culture that develops around it [some
cliche yet indicative examples in brackets]. For example:

Blue Collar -- works with hands [country music ethos, pick-up trucks,
Nascar, hunting fishing, budweiser, meth]

White Collar (particularly business / trade related)  -- works with
social/people skills,common sense and business skills, [easy listening
music, Lexus, golf and tennis, chardonay, single malt scotches] 
  
Intellectuals (college professors, journalists, doctors, lawyers, etc)
[classical music, hyrid cars/volvo station wagons, hiking, skiing,
imported beers, obscure wines, pot]

Artists (actors, musicians, writers, artists, etc)[new wave, punk,
modern rock, world music, sports cars, modern dance, yoga, running in
the wilderness ecstasy, hallucinogens, tequilla]


Is one strata superior to the other? Do members in one class seek to
be in another? For the most part no. For example, a lot of country
music is about blue collar pride and why no person with their feet on
the ground would ever want to be a shallow yuppie (aka white collar,
or air head -- intellectual).

More so, an important transition is underway in which the work of
Intellectuals, White-collar and artists can be digitized andand
commoditized to a degree in global markets -- driving down wages. And
similar processes occur in some but not all blue-collar jobs via
transfer of jobs (assembly,etc,) overseas. But some jobs can't be
digitized nor transferred overseas: many traditional blue collar
"hands on jobs". Cooks, housekeepers, gardeners, masseuses, etc. 
these jobs might become higher paying and thus prestigious than
traditional prestige jobs of Intellectuals, White Collar workers and
even some artists.

Thus, the jobs that mexican illegals do may become much more sought
after and prestigious. Classifying them as "sudra" and lowly jobs is
error prone on two fronts: it presumes i) a rank order to "castes" or
occupational stratas, and ii) that there is no long-run change to
compensation and prestige for different types of jobs as markets
continue to globalize.









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