--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 4/16/06 11:22 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > The issue is not *that* we "become involved in somebody
> > else's business," but *how* we become involved.  If we
> > stick to substance and don't make false accusations and
> > don't insult one another and try to be objective and
> > *fair* in our exchanges, there will be no feuds.
> 
> This is the best paragraph in your whole post. Unfortunately there
> are a lot of "ifs" in it. The problem is that you and Barry seem to 
> be incapable of living up to all of them. You'll probably say that 
> you are but Barry isn't. Barry would probably say that he is and
> you aren't.

And the only reason you could possibly put any stock
in such a claim from Barry would be that you haven't
read his posts in our exchanges.

How about the one I quoted that started the current
exchange that I quoted?  Do you think it lives up to
those criteria?

How about the most recent one in which he claims I'm
a "paranoid obsessive" for thinking his earlier post
was an attack on me?

Does *that* one live up to those criteria?

I think you'd find it a whole lot harder to find
evidence of dishonesty or unfairness in my posts.

It isn't just a matter of claims and counterclaims.
It's not a matter of moral equivalence.

There's clear-cut evidence that one of our claims to
be observing the criteria is a whole lot more valid
than the other.

But you have to *read the posts* to be able to tell.

> Meanwhile, everyone else just wishes the feuding would stop

Expressing dismay over the feud isn't going to stop it.
That isn't going to convince Barry to become honest and
fair and objective and refrain from insults.

But if he were to encounter disapproval of his
inability to observe these criteria from others--from
those with whom he isn't engaged in a running feud--it
might help.

If he were to make a major, good-faith effort to
observe the criteria I outlined, I would have no
more problem maintaining my objectivity and refraining
from insults than I currently do being fair and honest.

Alternatively, if others were to criticize his posts
for their unfairness, dishonesty, etc., I wouldn't
feel the need to do so.

As I said, feuds don't exist in a vacuum.

It's ridiculous for Barry to have to killfile me in
order to refrain from attacking me.  That isn't
self-control, that's avoidance and denial.  And it
hasn't ever worked any of the dozens of times he's
tried it anyway.

As I said, feuds don't exist in a vacuum.

To end a feud any way other than by brute force, you
have to sort out who is the aggrieved party and find
a way to address their grievance.

You're reluctant to employ brute force, but you don't
seem willing to attempt it the other way either.






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