On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:54 PM, sparaig wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2006, at 12:33 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wallace, in the aforementioned article, states that a
> > > purification
> > > > > > does happen once one sustains the state for extended
> periods:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "With the attainment of the ninth state called balanced
> > > placement,
> > > > > > accomplished
> > > > > > with the force of familiarization, only an initial impulse
> of
> > > will
> > > > > > and effort is needed at
> > > > > > the beginning of each meditation session; for after that,
> > > > > > uninterrupted, sustained at-
> > > > > > tention occurs effortlessly. Moreover, the engagement of the
> > > will,
> > > > > of
> > > > > > effort, and inter-
> > > > > > vention at this point is actually a hindrance. It is time
> to let
> > > > > the
> > > > > > natural balance of the
> > > > > > mind maintain itself without interference.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which happens all the time, from the start, with TM...
> > > >
> > > > People transcend from the start of their practice, for the
> length
> > > of
> > > > their entire meditation session, i.e. they transcend 20 minutes
> at
> > > a
> > > > time or hours at a time if they wish?
> > > >
> > >
> > > And you have documentation of this? And this voluntary
> transcending
> > > turns into spontaneous transcending for months and years at a
> time as
> > > documented where?
> >
> > LOL. You're the one who said you could do that with TM from the
> > beginning...
> >
> > Hang around some other meditators, you might learn a thing or two
> or
> > three...
> >
>
> There's plenty of people who claim plenty of things. However, I'm
> still waiting for documentation of your claim as in research
> published in peer reviewed journals.

And why are you waiting for that?

You need to get out more dude.



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