--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <jyouells@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Judy, > > > > > Wilber talks extensively about his experience of witnessing. > > > > > From his writings it's pretty clear he has the experience. > > > > > > > > I don't believe I suggested that Wilber didn't have > > > > the experience of witnessing, so I'm not sure of the > > > > relevance of this to what I said. > > > > > > > > > > Oops, sparaig, said it not you... Sorry 'bout that miscounted my > > >>'s > > > > Gotcha. But I don't think that's what Lawson was saying > > either. I think he was simply saying the little machine > > Wilber was using to monitor his brainwaves doesn't prove > > he was witnessing. > > > > After all this time, if Wilber isn't having witnessing > > experience, something's wrong! And his descriptions > > certainly do ring true. But that might or might not > > show up on his homemade EEG machine; it's just too crude. > > > Lawson said: > "Right. My point was that Vaj is claiming he can emulate > the TM EEG signature *during meditation*, but even if he > can, that wouldn't necessarily mean he could also > emulate it *during activity*." > > > Based on the video clips that Vaj has posted and the ease that he can > move from state to state at will, I'd certainly bet that he can and > has. (I'd bet he's been measured on more sensitive instruments as > well) I thought he's mentioned being involved in the developement of > those machhines. They were probably developed using a more > sophisticated EEG machine as a baseline. It doesn't *necessarly* mean > he could, but don't underestimate what he did with a few seconds > transition. > > JohnY >
But we don't know what he did. A 2-channel EEG doesn't tell jack about the workings of a brain. Some believe that a 128-channel doesn'ttell much. And... One of the claimed things he did was to stop his brain waves, period. Get real, that's commonly called "brain death." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
