--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
<jflanegi@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine 
> > <salsunshine@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > And they all lived happily ever after.
> > > > 
> > > > yeah-- very difficult to promote ideals during kali yuga 
> > > > because it is so hard to sustain them. we keep trying though.
> > > 
> > > Just as a question, how many people believe that Sat 
> > > Yuga ever existed?
> > > 
> > > As far as I can tell, Sat Yuga is a myth/fairytale 
> > > told to children, who theoretically are the only 
> > > ones who should believe in it. I've never seen any 
> > > historical or anthropological evidence that such a 
> > > time ever existed, or that life in India has *ever* 
> > > been that much different than the way it is now. 
> > > 
> > > So those of you who *do* believe in the Hindu idea
> > > about this previous (and hopefully future) "golden 
> > > age," could you explain to me *why* you believe this
> > > is true?  Is it purely because it's mentioned in Hindu
> > > scriptures, and that you take these scriptures literally?  
> > > 
> > > This is not just Hindu-bashing, BTW. I feel the same
> > > way about people who go on and on about Atlantis and Mu
> > > without a shred of proof that either civilization ever
> > > existed. There are some smart people here, and some
> > > of them obviously believe strongly in this model of
> > > different Yugas, and that there *was* such a golden
> > > age in the past, even if there is no record of such
> > > an age scientifically.  I'm curious as to the reasons 
> > > *why* they believe this.  Thanks in advance...
> > >
> > 
> > **************** 
> > 
> > Assigning credibility to the Vedic texts is easy for people who 
> > have 
> > experienced the expansion of awareness through the centerpiece 
of 
> > those texts, TM -- if the Vedic tradition can deliver on 
infinity, 
> > then stories of epochs in which the people live at high levels 
of 
> > consciousness are not a big reach. Really, the stories of the 
> > Puranas and other Vedic literature about life in differnet 
epochs 
> > are not so important compared to the possibility of practicing 
TM 
> > and living unlimited awareness, but it's easy to extrapolate 
> > confidence in all the stories of the Vedic literature when the 
big 
> > story, gaining infinite awareness, can be verified by anybody 
> > through TM.
> 



> Thanks for your reply. Now I guess my next question is,
> where is the modern-day example of a life lived in tune
> with having "gained infinite awareness?"
> 
> Is it the TM movement?
> 
> One would theoretically think so, since it is the org-
> anization that contains the most people practicing TM.
> But the last time I checked, even *you* were fairly
> critical of that organization and the way it handles
> things.  So if you don't mind, point me to the real-
> world example of this theoretical ideal society of
> which you speak.
>

Nearly everybody, including I believe, flaming anti-TMOers like you, 
respects Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, MMY's master, so 
there is at least one modern-day example of a life lived in tune 
with infinite awareness. I am not as one-pointed as Guru Dev, who 
left home at age nine (!) to seek enlightenment, but I and many 
others are on that same search, thanks to Guru Dev and MMY, so if 
will exercise a little patience and good humor you might be lucky to 
see many other enlightened souls who would be the trees in an 
enlightened forest society.

Floating the spiritual regeneration movement boat in the Kaliyuga is 
just a real slow process, but infinite awareness/order is just the 
reality of life, so it always "wins" whether it looks like it will 
or not...






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