--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hughes"
> <richardhughes103@> wrote:
> >
> [I wrote:]
> > >In any case, my point is that it's not so much abstract
> > >thought that makes the difference, but rather the
> > >capacity for self-awareness, which must exist before any
> > >abstract thought can take place.  But the capacity for
> > >self-awareness in and of itself may mandate some degree
> > >of abstract thought; and since some animals apparently
> > >do have self-awareness, it would follow that they also
> > >have some capacity for abstract thought.
> > >
> > Yes, I guess as we share 98% of our DNA with these guys there ought
> > to be more similarities than just physical appearance.
> >
> > Is it possible to teach one of the other apes to meditate though?
>
> Probably not unless we learn to speak (other) ape!
>
> On the other hand, for all we know, they may meditate
> already, having discovered meditation on their own.
>
> Dolphins too, perhaps.
>
> One of my favorite (allegedly true) dolphin stories:
>
> A researcher was training a dolphin to make a sound
> on signal, to be rewarded with a fish.  The dolphin
> picked it up quickly, but the researcher kept testing
> it over and over.
>
> At one point the dolphin suddenly stopped squeaking
> in response to the signals, although the researcher
> was signalling in exactly the same way.  After several
> more tries, the dolphin began squeaking on signal again.
>
> The researcher was puzzled as to why it should have
> stopped for a while after it had mastered the trick.
>
> Then he looked at the recording instruments that
> were monitoring the sessions.  Apparently the dolphin
> had been squeaking on signal all along, but at the
> point when it seemed to have stopped, it had actually
> lowered the frequency of its squeak well below the
> level of human hearing.
>
> Not only that, but when it didn't get a fish after its
> first low-pitched squeak, rather than returning to its
> normal frequency, it raised its squeaks in small
> increments until the researcher began giving it fish
> again.
>
> It looked very much as though the dolphin had gotten
> bored and had decided to test the range of the
> researcher's hearing.
>

Very cool!
Thanks for posting that.


JohnY






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