>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > > On Apr 18, 2006, at 10:00 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting
> > > > > > stuck in *any thing*.
> > > > >
> > > > > Having as a goal during meditation "the tracing a seed
> > > > > syllable back to its source -- silence."
> > > >
> > > > <sigh> Goal of the *method*, not during meditation.
> > > >
> > > > I see you're back to the silly semantic game again.
> > >
> > > In the absence of experience, theory and arguing
> > > semantics is all one has. Think of it as a Linus
> > > blanket; I find it helps to inspire compassion.
> >
> > Except that, of course, all TMers have the experience of
> > tracing the seed syllable back to its source. But it
> > isn't the *goal* of the method, it's what happens when
> > one follows the instructions for TM.
> >
> > What we're attempting to determine is whether this is
> > also the case with the method Vaj is talking about.
> >
>
> To clarify: I want to know if Vaj believes that this is what ALWAYS
> happens, or what CAN happen.
OK.
> With TM theory, the description is an
> idealized version of the situation: if our nervous systems were
> stress free enough, it would be a normal description, but due to
> stress, the ideal is often quite different from the reality.
I'd say we *always* have the experience of tracing
the seed syllable back to (i.e., in the direction of)
its source; we just don't always get as far as the
source.
>
> I'm just wondering if there is any difference between an "ideal"
> description of what happens during the technique he mentions and
what
> really happens.
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