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> >From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing
people to
> >meditate, wa
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:51:20 -0000
> >
> >--- In [email protected], "Richard Hughes"
> ><richardhughes103@> wrote:
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> > > >From: TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > >To: [email protected]
> > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga Fairy Tale? was: Forcing
> >people to
> > > >meditate, wa
> > > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:48:27 -0000
> > > >
> > > >--- In [email protected], "Richard Hughes"
> > > ><richardhughes103@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why ascribe divine presence to something that doesn't
> > > > > need it? I think it's much more amazing to think of
> > > > > life as having started from nowhere and reaching this
> > > > > level of complexity unaided.
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't it enough to know that a garden's beautiful
> > > > > without thinking there's fairies at the bottom of
> > > > > it as well?
> > > >
> > > >Well said, dude. I've grown so used to being
> > > >surrounded by theists here that it's really
> > > >refreshing to hear from someone who can even
> > > >*conceive* of a universe that doesn't require
> > > >a deity, and the fact that it would essentially
> > > >be more interesting than a universe that did
> > > >have one.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Shame I'm going away for long weekend and won't know if we've
got
> > > any converts, perhaps everyone can wait for a week or talk about
> > > something else 'til I get back?
> >
> >I just wrote a long response to your most recent
> >post to me, but Yahoo ate it. I'll try to put
> >it together again for when you return.
> >
> >FWIW, I'm not a theist. Actually what I described
> >that Barry is trashing here is deism, not theism.
> >But I'm not even a deist; I was just presenting the
> >deist view as a more abstract and science-compatible
> >alternative to the Creationism notion of a
> >micromanaging deity, which is in conflict with science.
> >
> >Again Barry's confusing "This theory says..." with "What
> >this theory says is true!" He doesn't seem able to
> >conceive of describing a theory or belief without
> >necessarily believing in it oneself.
> >
> >And for those keeping score, this is the third post
> >of mine Barry has trashed after having sworn three days
> >ago to avoid "commenting on subjects that even a
> >paranoid obsessive might think were about her
> >personally."
>
> I only glanced at the "feud" thread and so don't know the whole
> story.But are you sure your "History" with Barry isn't clouding
> your judgement here? I didn't think he was "trashing" your post and
> maybe the "thiest" bit wasn't directed solely at you, I'm happy for
> anyone to pitch in, the more the merrier!
If you were tuned in to the history, it would be
obvious. It's absolutely typical of Barry's
behavior; he's done it countless times in the past.
He makes a stab at disguising what he's doing in an
attempt to give himself "plausible deniability," but
it's quite transparent when you've seen it over and
over again.
Of course anybody's welcome to pitch in. But if you
follow Barry's posts, you may notice that a great
deal of the time, he doesn't pitch in to discuss ideas
but to trash somebody, as here.
Notice, by the way, the assumption in what he wrote
that theists "cannot conceive" of a universe that
does not require a deity. Of course they can. They've
considered it and decided they don't believe it's the
case.
That sort of profound intellectual dishonesty--always
in the service of a putdown--is also typical of Barry.
(Not to mention that he doesn't even know what theism
*is*.)
I could go on, but I'll spare you.
> Look forward to reading your post when I get back.
And I'll look forward to your comments.
Have a great weekend!
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